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Fort Hood suspect charged with 13 counts of murder

FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) -- The Army psychiatrist in the Fort Hood massacre was charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder Thursday as he lay in a hospital bed and President Barack Obama ordered a review to determine if the government fumbled warning signs of the shooter’s contacts with a radical Islamic cleric.

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan could face the death penalty if convicted.

Army officials said they believe Hasan acted alone when he jumped on a table with two hand guns last week, shouted “Allahu akbar” and opened fire. The dead included at least three other mental health professionals; 29 were injured.

Additional charges were possible, said Chris Grey, spokesman for the Army Criminal Investigation Command. It had not been decided whether to charge Hasan with the death of the unborn child of a pregnant soldier who died, officials told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the case publicly.

(Nov. 12, 2009)

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ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 12, 2009 6:16 PM:

" This guy is basically the scum of the earth. I'm only saddened that he wasn't shot on sight. I'm sure some in the military wanted him out, but idiots like Obama and all the "hate crime" supporters would have never allowed it. Well, even this US backstabber can probably furnish his birth certificate if asked. "

Pete wrote on Nov 13, 2009 8:01 AM:

" This poor guy is paralyzed, can't they just leave him alone? "

Skip wrote on Nov 13, 2009 8:05 AM:

" This just shouldn't have happened so soon. If Hasan hadn't gotten orders to go overseas, this perticular "sleeper cell" wouldn't have had to acted now. "

Paul wrote on Nov 13, 2009 2:26 PM:

" ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 12, 2009 6:16 PM:

" I'm sure some in the military wanted him out, but idiots like Obama would have never allowed it."

President Obama IS IN THE MILITARY?????

Why didn't Kieth tells US that???? I am going to start to listen to rush, hannity and beck. Did I miss somebody???

What rank or rate is President Obama???? "

Alihandero wrote on Nov 13, 2009 5:27 PM:

" Thoughts I have lately...

When will he be well enough to interrogate him properly as a terrorist who committed a successful act of homicidal terrorism?

I am sure he will be rehabilitated with physical therapy using a water tank or swimming pool...we could keep a backboard and dry towels/bucket handy, just for safety sake, of course.

Physical rehabilitation is torture, many many patients say... "

ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 13, 2009 6:56 PM:

" We should leave him alone in the middle of 198 in front of the base. You could even broadcast on youtube and fund Obama's health care program with the proceeds. I read he made lots of phone calls before this happened. I wonder what ACORN was telling him to do on those calls. "

Alihandero wrote on Nov 14, 2009 6:01 PM:

" Paul wrote on Nov 13, 2009 2:26 PM:
President Obama IS IN THE MILITARY?????
What rank or rate is President Obama???? "

Oh, "Paul," did you tell the truth when you said you served in the military? The U.S. military, right?

And you got through Basic training without knowing the chain-of-command?

Here 'tis once again:

Obama is the Commander-in-Chief.

As Commander-in-Chief, the U.S. President outranks any military officer and so has the inherent right to assume command on the battlefield.

Yeah, I know, I know...that'll be the day... "

RuffDiamond wrote on Nov 16, 2009 3:11 PM:

" The charge needs to be amended to 14. The pregnant victim's child should not be discounted.

What are key components to terroristic acts? Attention (check), to create mass hysteria (check) and effect a lot of people (check) and to keep them scared this will happen in the immediate future (check). "

ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 16, 2009 7:19 PM:

" Paul looks like we have a terrorist act committed right under the nose of Obama, ACORN, and the ACLU. If we want to find whose actions and political positions may have helped Hasan I'd start with those three before anyone else. "

Paul wrote on Nov 16, 2009 9:05 PM:

" " I'm sure some in the military wanted him out, but idiots like Obama"

That is what tys wrote.

I answered,

"President Obama IS IN THE MILITARY?????

Why didn't Kieth tells US that???? I am going to start to listen to rush, hannity and beck. Did I miss somebody???"

The way tys wrote it, he left the impression that President Obama (to me) is in the military and NOT the Commander In Chief.

My comment was a tongue in cheek comment, but again you didn't get it.

Just like you didn't get the bit about the DEAD Don Ho.

I AM a VETERAN and very proud of it. I don't QUESTION other vets about what they know and don't know. What their job was/is, where they did their time. Normally that comes out in the course of conversation that "some" vets will talk about. Others WILL NOT. But to Humor you, I will answer your pointless question.

Yes, I know about the chain of command. And that President Obama is Commander In Chief of ALL the Armed Forces of the US.

SO?? "

Skip wrote on Nov 16, 2009 9:48 PM:

" ANYBODY that served in the military knows that Ali. If a person doesn't know that, they probably NEVER served. "

SuziQ wrote on Nov 16, 2009 9:51 PM:

" Well Rush said, Glen Beck confirmed it, so I know it's true, that the President IS Commander-in-Chief! "

Paul wrote on Nov 16, 2009 9:58 PM:

" Continue.

But the real question is not whether I know about President Obama and commanders in chief or chains of command.

Its how "some" have tried to make the shootings at Ft. Hood President Obama's FAULT.

MAJOR Hasan was/is a crazed American soldier (American Citizen too) who happen to snap and shoot and kill 12 unarmed American soldiers and 1 civilian.

I am truly sad for the families of those involved,
because he was/is an American Army officerand because it happened at Ft. Hood, my last duty station.

"Some" wanted Major Hasan to be shot on sight. Hello, he was.

Furnish a "Fake passport." Gee... where have I heard that before????

"Hate crime supporters, Obama's health care program and of course, ACORN."

What do all these have to do with what happened at Ft. Hood???? Again, NOTHING.

How intelligent "some" are at connecting the dots.

Instead of writing about everything mentioned above, why don't you invite a soldier to Thanksgiving Dinner to show how much they mean to you? Give yourselves some "stand down" time. "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Nov 17, 2009 1:29 PM:

" to Paul,

I guess it hurts when you put on our shoes. Aren't you one those that post to complain about how Katrina happened during Bush's watch? I guess he had the Air Force redirect the path of a hurricane towards New Orleans.

And you will not get me to make a statement blaming Obama for the terrorist act at Ft. Hood. Nobody can predict how any one individual will act. But yes I am upset that President Obama has not called this a terrorist act. When Timothy McVeigh killed in Oklahoma it was okay to call it a terrorist act. But now for some reason the attack at Ft. Hood can't be called a terrorist attack? It was, no if's and's or but's about it. And it has nothing to do with the religious believes of Maj Hasan. He terrorized a group of innocent people.

I also believe that a firing squad would be too easy on this guy. Draw and quarter him! "

ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 17, 2009 5:23 PM:

" Paul weren't you the one who kept insisting that since 911 attack happened when Bush was in office that it was all his fault? Now something happened while Obama is President and clearly in charge of the military, but you insist it isn't Obama's fault in any way at all. Plus, my writing confused you so much that you thought I said Obama was in the Navy, Army, Air Force, or Marines. Your mind reading is definitely getting worse just like your arguments that Obama is doing a great job for all of us. "

Bobb wrote on Nov 17, 2009 6:10 PM:

" NotHomeGrown; Very well stated and to the point. "

Paul wrote on Nov 17, 2009 7:25 PM:

" ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 17, 2009 5:23 PM:

"said Obama was in the Navy, Army, Air Force, or Marines."

You forgot the US Coast Guard.

Just like I called for you to call ICE to round up President Obama

PROVE that the shootings at Ft. Hood was/is President Obama's fault.

Post whatever SOLID evidence you have on President Obama that the military or the FBI don't have. "

Paul wrote on Nov 17, 2009 7:51 PM:

" NotHomeGrown wrote on Nov 17, 2009 1:29 PM:

But yes I am upset that President Obama has not called this a terrorist act. When Timothy McVeigh killed in Oklahoma it was okay to call it a terrorist act. But now for some reason the attack at Ft. Hood can't be called a terrorist attack? It was, no if's and's or but's about it. And it has nothing to do with the religious believes of Maj Hasan. He terrorized a group of innocent people.

Your right wing roots are showing. You, like many others want everything explained in a republican way. And not everything can be explained. When Timmy did his thing, he was involved with a "group" of people that knew what he was going to do and helped him carry it out. When the 9/11 terrorist struck "they" were also a part of a "group" that also helped carry out the attacks.

Major Hasan was ONE (1) person that acted out on his own by himself.

Why didn't President Nixon call the Manson killings a terrorist act in 69'?

I think you want this to be about "religious believes (beliefs?). "

RobertD wrote on Nov 18, 2009 1:24 PM:

" Regarding Paul's comments, I agree that Obama is not at FAULT for the Fort Hood. On the other hand, he and his administration have promoted a culture of political correctness and cututral sensitivity that negates common sense. Fear of some how insulting or "profiling" a certain group should not force the military or law enforcement into ignoring the blaring warning signs emmited by a potential threat. Hasan should have been profiled and targeted as a threat to US security. He even told close, non-Muslim associates that he believed Sharia law superceded the Consitution. How can he beleive that and take the oath of an officer in the US Army? "

Paul wrote on Nov 18, 2009 5:44 PM:

" RobertD wrote on Nov 18, 2009 1:24 PM:

"Fear of some how insulting or "profiling" a certain group should not force the military or law enforcement into ignoring the blaring warning signs emmited by a potential threat. Hasan should have been profiled and targeted as a threat to US security."

I doubt that law enforcement or the military are "afraid" of any certain group in the US or in the world. The gov't cracked down and just recently "took down" some terrorist that were planning attacks. The gov't was proactive. So I doubt what you said about being "intimidated."

I DO AGREE with you in the Major Hasan should have been "profiled and targeted as a threat to US security."

But it is still evident that 8 years after 9/11 our agencies are still rivals when it comes to sharing information on "certain people" that are walking among us.

But remember, we are a free society and that is one of the dangers that we will always face.

Our founding fathers KNEW that and this shooting at Ft. Hood proves it. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 18, 2009 6:01 PM:

" Paul wrote on Nov 17, 2009 7:25 PM:

" ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 17, 2009 5:23 PM:

said Obama was in the Navy, Army, Air Force, or Marines.

You forgot the US Coast Guard."

I didn't really forget them, should I list all special forces and national guard too to make you happy, but you seemed to conveniently forget that Obama is Commander in Chief of the military especially given a terrorist act just took place under his watch. By the way when is your zero hero going to support our efforts in Afganistan? Last I checked on your CNN our General there had asked for help but Obama is too upset about losing the olympics for Chicago to perform his job now. You also like to complain about Rush a lot, but he is Right much more than you are. "

Bobb wrote on Nov 18, 2009 8:18 PM:

" Paul; You must have a lot more knowledge of Maj. Hasan than I. How do we know that he was not a member of a larger group or cell planning terrorist attacks against the US. He was in contact, according to new sources, with terrorist groups outside the US and even met with them. He also proclaims to be a jihad's. Until the investigation is complete I would hesitate to proclaim him innocent of being a part of a terrorist group. As far as Obama is concerned, I really have my doubts he had any prior knowledge of what was to happen just as I have my doubts the Bush knew 9/11 was going to happen. We have become to complacent about investigating possible terrorist persons/groups for fear of political correctness. "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Nov 19, 2009 9:40 AM:

" to Paul, there you go again, not abiding by your own rules. What does Mason, Nixon and 1969 have to do with this thread? But you know what, if Nixon had called Mason a terrorist, I don't think anybody would have disagreed. I do believe that the whole Mason clan were referred to as fanatics.

And do you Paul, have indisputeable proof that Maj. Hasan acted alone? Did anybody else know of his plans? If he had just walked in and killed his boss and some co-workers, I wouldn't have been quick to call it a terrorist act, but according to accounts published so far, when he first yelled God is Great! (Allah Akhbar), then he was committing a terrorist act.

Do you suppose this can also be tried as a hate crime, since are so for that legislation? "

roflcopter wrote on Nov 19, 2009 11:27 AM:

" if god wanted this man dead he would be dead already who are we to judge gods will, god is all powerful and knew this was going to happen and let it happen for a reason probably so he had a good reason to cage fight muhammed and when that happens and god has won i know ill be safe because i didnt question gods will by questioning his actions "

RobertD wrote on Nov 19, 2009 1:01 PM:

" Excellent point Paul. We must sacrifice security to maintain our freedoms. It irritates me when people think they can have both freedom and security; however, my concern is that those in power are promoting a hyper-multiculturalist atmosphere among government agencies which has created an environment in which those who are supposed to protect us are giving certain groups the "benefit of the doubt." I have many friends and relatives that are military and law enforcement. Although purely annecdotal, they feel pressure from their superiors to not follow their instincts and sometimes the evidence when dealing with various minority or religious groups. There seems to have been way too much evidence against Hasan to have the whole issue ignored like it was. "

Bobb wrote on Nov 19, 2009 6:01 PM:

" This is off subject but does anyone know what happened to Watchdog Fred. I have not seen any comments from him and I know he had health issues. Just concerned. "

Paul wrote on Nov 19, 2009 7:28 PM:

" NotHomeGrown wrote on Nov 19, 2009 9:40 AM:

" What does Mason (Manson?? I was referring to Charles MANSON), Nixon and 1969 have to do with this thread?

I don’t know, what does Mason have to do with…??

Why did Nixon NOT come out and call the MANSON family terrorist??? After all they terrorized an innocent group of people. Did Nixon sympathize with charlie??? That is what I want to know???

But seriously, in my AMERICA, nhg, ANY American Citizen is INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY. I think it's on any TV program I think, minus the fox channel. But that doesn't matter because, I think, you have already tried him, sentenced him and you are ready to, what was your quote... oh yeah, "quarter him!"

All because President Obama wouldn't call this a terrorist act. Minus fox, everyone else calls this what I think is what happened, a "massacre"

And no, I don't have indisputeable (indisputable?? Maybe) proof that Maj. Hasan acted alone? Did anybody else know of his plans?"

But remember, nhg, it is not I who is trying to prove him GUILTY. "

Paul wrote on Nov 19, 2009 8:05 PM:

" Bobb wrote on Nov 18, 2009 8:18 PM:

" Paul; You must have a lot more knowledge of Maj. Hasan than I. How do we know that he was not a member of a larger group or cell planning terrorist attacks against the US. He was in contact, according to new sources, with terrorist groups outside the US and even met with them.

Hummmm... can you refer me to that "new sources" (news sources??) that provided that "insight" on Major Hasan to you???

Betcha' it was fox new, I mean, news.

To ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 18, 2009 6:01 PM:

" given a terrorist act just took place under his watch."

That is what I wanted to hear. So, President Obama has now joined bush and had "his terrorist attack." Nice try. Too bad it does pass the test. Other than on becks program on fox.

By the way when is your zero hero going to support our efforts in Afganistan?

The gov't in afgan is corrupt; the afgan citizens don't want us there. Sounds like Vietnam again. I don't blame him wanting to send more American soldiers there. "

RobertD wrote on Nov 20, 2009 12:25 PM:

" I realize that definitions of terrorism are pointless, but Hasan's actions seem to be motivated by his religion. Granted, it may have simply been a mental breakdown, but suggesting that his actions were acts of terror is not out of the ballpark. "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Nov 20, 2009 12:47 PM:

" to Paul, yes I did accidentially leave the N out Manson's name, but you knew exactly what I was referring to. But since you like to point out spelling mistakes rather than addressing facts, it is glad to know that Obama is wanting to send more troops as your following words point out:

"I don't blame him wanting to send more American soldiers there."

I think perchance you forgot to include some words like "for not"

I can't tell you why everyone wasn't calling Manson a terrorist, because he did and still is a terrorist. But just because back in 69 he wasn't, doesn't forgive not calling Maj. Hasan a terrorist.

You definition of terrorist is incomplete, terrorism can be caused by an individual or a group. "

Bobb wrote on Nov 20, 2009 4:58 PM:

" Paul; It was in the Fresno and Bee as an AP news release in one of the many articles on the subject. I believe it was the second or third day after the massacre. Sorry to upset you about leaving the "s" out of new,(news) source. Spellcheck didn't catch it but that is a minor the issue anyway. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 20, 2009 10:08 PM:

" Paul face the facts. Our General on the ground in Afganistan has asked for immediate help from our softy Commander in Chief and he is getting the same amount of help the rest of our country is getting... even you can read minds here, he is gettting NOTHING. More troops are dying from Obama's inability to act. Is Bush still in charge?... no... then maybe you should realize who is directly failing to support our troops right now, today. If you really did serve in the military and really do support our troops I'm bothered why you are happy that Obama is doing NOTHING. If you said he should be pulling the troops out or sending troops in I could respect that, but your support of his fear of making a decision is sad. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 20, 2009 10:15 PM:

" Paul are you actually supporting the rights of Hasan to have a fair trial and fair treatment like we are all not sure it was him. Maybe it was a look alike... What next are you going to have a car wash for his terrorist defense fund? "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Nov 22, 2009 4:31 PM:

" Paul, since you are so upset with my draw and quarter comment, you must be fuming since President Obama and his Attorney General are on record promising that Khalid Shiek Mohammed WILL be found guilty. Now who is not adhering to the American principle? My comments are my own and don't sway anyone, yet our commander in chief has already acted as Judge, Jury and Executioner. "

RobertD wrote on Nov 24, 2009 9:29 AM:

" Rasmussen poll today says that 63% of those polled believe "political correctness" prevented authorities from taking preventive action against Major Hasan. I know the libs hate Rasmussen, but this data follows the opinion I expressed earlier that the mood of the Obama administration has created a PC/multiculturalist mentality that can be harmful. "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:33 PM:

" to RobertD, I have to disagree with you somewhat, I can't put the blame of PC on Obama, it has been ongoing for awhile. Maj Hasan was in the military under Bush also. I do not fault either Bush or Obama for what Maj Hasan did. We never know what one individual is capable of and will do. But I do agree that PC has gone too far in regards to whenever a Republican or Conservative points out a fact, that the Liberals attack us. I have stated that I think that what Maj Hasan did was a terrorist act, and I am pounced upon why this wasn't said about Manson back in 69. Whenever somebody does something horrific we should be able to denounce it immediately no matter race, creed or religion. Haven't seen too many Mormons jumping up on the table and saying Bringham Young is great and then firing indescrimately. cont "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:37 PM:

" to RobertD, cont
There was an instance where a fanatical Jew attacked worshipers in the Dome of the Rock mosque in Jerusalem, and almost everyone jumped on that and denounced the person and the event. And I am sure that he was addressed as a terrorist, I know for sure in the Arab News. And that is how I feel about the whole thing. ANYBODY commits a crime such as either the Ft. Hood or the Al-Asqa massacres must be labeled a terrorist. Just like Timothy McVeigh was. "

Deb wrote on Nov 25, 2009 8:11 PM:

" NHG - If you don't mind, I'd like to add my thoughts to the "terrorist" issue.
The most frequent definition of terrorism refers specifically to violence which is/has been intended to create fear (terror) and is completed with an ideological goal in mind.

And, in the case of Hasan it is assumed by many to be an act of an ideological Muslim.

I say let the facts come out. While there seems to be a clear case that this was ideological that's not yet proven. Once proven in court then that will have great impact upon his sentence.

Now, mind you, I'm certainly not writing this to change anyone's mind, but rather to explain why calling him a terrorist in some minds isn't acceptable and in this case, where the man is a Muslim it becomes highly charged because of the vehemence toward Muslims in general in our country. "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Nov 27, 2009 12:11 PM:

" to Deb,

How dare you insinuate that I of all people would show "vehemence toward Muslims". I have served a life time (over 20 years in total) in the Middle East and have worked with Shiites, Sunnis, and Druiz. I have worked with Iranians, Saudis, Egyptians, Turks, Bangldeshis, Pakistanis, and Indonesians, so I know the people first hand. Muslims can be very good people, just like another other people of the world can be good. They also have their bad people just like us, and I believe Maj. Hasan to have been that, and no matter what you try to justify his actions as, I will always call him a terrorist. Just like I would call a Christian soldier who opened fire in a Hospital in Baghdad after yelling death to the heathens a terrorist. Anybody that attacks people doing their normal day to day routine is a terrorist. Fighting and killing on the battlefield is war, and I wish that even that didn't happen, but it does. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 27, 2009 2:38 PM:

" NHG that was very well stated. It is clear you know exactly what you are talking about while others just parrot what they heard on CNN or NBC. "

Alihandero wrote on Nov 27, 2009 7:02 PM:

" Deb, knowing your caring and compassionate nature for defending the 'rights' of America's foreign AND domestic enemies, we can likewise assume that you personally are very content with this:

"Washington (CNN) -- Five Guantanamo Bay detainees with alleged ties to the 9/11 conspiracy, including accused mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, will be transferred to New York to go on trial in civilian court..."

Put you mind at rest, Deb, and fear not; they will not be mistreated nor their rights denied anymore! "

ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 28, 2009 1:06 PM:

" Funny it seemed like a military type attack and they do represent a foreign militant terrorist group, I can see why Obama wouldn't have any problem with them being tried in civilian court. Maybe he can represent them to earn some extra Christmas money. "

Deb wrote on Dec 3, 2009 2:54 PM:

" NHG - I'm sorry you feel insulted, that certainly was not my intention. Remember - I said "some" and while the post was directed at you, in that I was discussing this with you, I don't know you well enough to determine one way or another as to how you determine a terrorist. But, because I did insult you I apologize. "

Deb wrote on Dec 3, 2009 3:10 PM:

" Alihandero YES, I believe they should be tried in Federal Court. They committed Federal crimes.

And, I could bet that you feel the opposite from your condescending tone.

Civilian trials are a fundamental American value - why now is it a problem? It wasn't a problem when the terrorists bombed the WTC in 1993?

The US was not at war when the 9/11 attacks occurred. Just as with the first attack on the Twin Towers, a terrorist attack is a criminal act, not a military issue.

The prisoners were not captured by military personnel but rather Pakistan and later taken into custody by the DSS.

Oh well... ONE more thing with which we isagree. Not surprising in the least. "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Dec 4, 2009 12:38 PM:

" Deb, first apology accepted.
Now on to your reasoning that to me is flawed. You cite the first bombing as an example, thought people I believe were captured in the U.S. and were part of the actual group that did the attack. The GITMO detainees as far as I know never stepped foot into the lower 48. They were captured as Enemy Combatants. They were the masterminds that planned/enabled the 9/11 attacks. So what Federal crime did they commit? To me Federal crimes are those that are committed by people under the jurisdiction of that specific Federation. Since none of them were citizens or legal aliens, then they couldn't be tried under our "Federal" laws, but rather under the laws of war, and each of them should have been summarily executed for not being in uniform, which you must be to fall under the Geneva Convention. "

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