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So She Thought: I’m a Grinch when it comes to Halloween handouts

I'm glad Halloween is over. Yes, my husband and I spent Halloween this year much as we've done for the last two, with curtains drawn and lights out, hiding in the back of our house where no one could tell we were home.

It's not that we didn't want to see the little ones in their costumes -- the firefighters, witches and princesses parading up and down the street with their little plastic pumpkins. We miss seeing them all. The problem is, we just can't afford to buy enough candy to satisfy everyone.

We realized this the first Halloween we were in our new home, which is in a new subdivision on the outskirts of town. It went something like this: At approximately 6 p.m., vans and SUVs started pulling up in our neighborhood, and trick-or-treaters started spilling out of them. I don't know where these folks lived, but it wasn't within walking distance, apparently.

We had our fair share of youngsters, but recognized none of them. But, hey, at least they were kids. What disturbed us more was that we had adults expecting candy handouts as well. We had several women pushing newborns in strollers, holding pillowcases out and asking for some candy "for the baby." We had grown men. And of course we had high school students who rang the doorbell in street clothes and when we asked where their costume was, said, "I'm dressed as a person."

We even had one couple who sported two giant Hefty-type bags and said they were collecting for their child, who was home sick. I gave them candy, but realized I probably should have given them a box of Thera-Flu packets and sent them on their way. Sadly, those kinds of brilliant thoughts always hit me after the fact. Next year, I thought.

Just as we gave out our last piece of candy, the hundred or so visitors who'd just bombarded us, almost on cue, all loaded up their vans and drove about a mile down the street.

There they all piled out again and began working that end of the neighborhood, moving through the subdivision and cleaning it out like a Snickers-driven plague of locusts.

I don't know how many neighborhood stops it took before their king-sized pillowcases were full, but I'm guessing there were many. And frankly, it was enough to turn even congenial souls like my husband and I into Halloween Grinches.

An hour or so after we were cleaned out of candy, we got another knock on the door, and this time whoever was knocking called out to us by name. When we looked through the peephole to the dark porch, it was our neighbors, who'd brought their children around so we could see their costumes.

Luckily I had stashed some full-sized candy bars in the pantry, so they got an extra large treat from us, which they were thrilled about.

I guess it worked out, but I felt bad running out of regular Halloween candy before 7 p.m. We'd bought plenty, and by the looks of things on our street, some of the neighborhood kids were just getting started.

This story repeated itself again on Year 2, so on Year 3, a decision was made: No more supplying greater Hanford with Halloween candy. No more stuffing pillowcases. No more giving in to high school kids old enough to drive and grown men and women using their stroller-bound babies as fronts for free goodies. We were closing the candy store and heading to the back of the house on Oct. 31.

Of course we still had the neighborhood kids to think about. We have several small children who live next door and across the street from us. We were around when they were born, and now that they're old enough to dress up and enjoy Halloween, we want to enjoy it with them. So I've started baking cupcakes and handing them out the day before Halloween, so they know we care about them and want them to enjoy some seasonal sweets.

But what about the rest of the neighborhood? We have children in the houses around us who trick-or-treat within walking distance of their neighborhoods, who fill a small plastic pumpkin with goodies and then happily return home. Those are the ones we feel worst about, because sadly, we found there just isn't anything left for them once the older teens, the adults, and the drive-by candy convoys sweep through our street and our neighborhood.

So what's the answer? Be patient, apparently, until we're no longer the latest drive-to destination for hundreds of residents from other parts of town.

I've heard it takes a few years, but once new subdivisions go in, the convoys generally move onto them, and leave the older neighborhoods to the locals.

But until then, I'll miss seeing our neighborhood princesses and firefighters.

As for the stroller-pushing women and other grownups who come looking for a free candy handout by nosing in on what should be a children's activity ... them, I don't miss at all.

Diane Sayre is a freelance writer living in Hanford. Her column appears weekly in the Sentinel. Readers can write to her at The Hanford Sentinel, P.O. Box 9, Hanford, CA 93232.

(Nov. 9, 2009)

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babyluv wrote on Nov 9, 2009 7:35 PM:

" I am a mother who takes my children trick or treating. As a mother who pushes a stroller. I disagree with some of your grinchness. I take my baby door to door because it is his first halloween. And I want him to enjoy every moment of it, that includes being able to eat the candy that is ediable for him to eat and that is safe for him to eat without choking. Along with my 5 year old. I buy candy for children to enjoy as well as alot of other people no matter how bad my money status is every year. Some people take advantage I understand that part but you shouldn't classify all stroller pushing mothers as greedy people who want to enjoy the candy for themselves. Some of us just want every moment with out children to be special and rememberable. "

commentator wrote on Nov 10, 2009 11:47 AM:

" If you truly can't afford candy, then you are in dire financial straits, and I feel for you. May things start looking up again soon for you and your family!

If not, relax and lighten up! Put things into perspective and enjoy the holiday.

Doesn't that sound more fun than stting in a dark room fuming about those un-costumed teens and candy-grubbing mothers who pimp out their stoller-aged infants for chocolate?

Cheers! "

americantaxpayer wrote on Nov 11, 2009 10:11 AM:

" Diane! I hear where you’re coming from. Time after time I see the same vans come into our neighbor hood too unloading more children and some adults than the van can legally carry are just disturbing. Why can’t these children collect candy in their own neighbor hoods? I know it’s a time for children and that’s what is should be. I agree that adults should act like adults and act as supervisors of the children and not like children themselves. As for the older teens running around,” grow up and get a job or help out passing candy at home”! I’ve also noticed at this generation of children perceive this as a right to collect candy from every opened house. Very few children said “Thank you” after receiving there candy too! The last few years we have started to give candy to our children’s friends in our neighbor hood earlier in the day so at least they can receive there candy and treats from us before the invaders do! Good luck next year! "

Alihandero wrote on Nov 11, 2009 2:54 PM:

" Well, certain people just love the free Halloween candy entitlement provided by Americans. "

Bobb wrote on Nov 11, 2009 6:27 PM:

" I know it can be trying as we get about 600 kids, adults and students, down from over 700 last year. When I first retired and we moved to Hanford my wife made each kid a little bag with a bow and many pieces of candy in each one. As she is disabled this became too much for her but she loves the occasion an the kids so I go along with it. We had more than 17 of those large bags of candy this year and had to close it down a 900 PM as we had ran out. Some came by a second time and one older kid said he was dressed as a student when my wife asked what he was, quick thinking, he will make an excellent politician. At least we didn't get any vandalism this year and she was happy. "

Bobb wrote on Nov 11, 2009 6:36 PM:

" We did have some adults with the pillow cases but that is just something that you cannot punish the little ones for. Most of those little tykes were in very cute costumes and some of the parents dressed up with their kids. One little girl named Savannah, i hope I spelled it right, came with her mother and she was dressed to the 10's. Her costume was one of the best I have ever seen, a fluffy pink and white chick. She was more interested in playing with our miniature Schnauzer,Sasha, than getting candy. What a sweetheart as she make herself right at home. To see the smiles on my wife's face is worth the effort for me. "

Herewego wrote on Nov 12, 2009 12:23 PM:

" Babyluv,

You are exactly the kind of person the author is writing about. Don't try to justify your greediness by saying you want your baby to remember it all, because he won't! If it's truly his first Halloween, that would make him less than a year old, hardly cognizant of understanding what is going on.

What do you do with the candy he can't eat? "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Nov 12, 2009 1:44 PM:

" to babyluv, I disagree with you 100%, if the child can't say trick or treat, then there shouldn't be any treat. Now if your 5 year old came to my door, and I saw you on the sidewalk with the stroller, then I might add some more candy and tell you small child that they should share with their younger brother or sister.

Diane, I am with you 100%, it is our money and we can do what we want to with it. I too would like to be able to hand out candy to the kids that I know, and not a bunch of scroungers. Yes once a child is in High school, they should either be at a Haloween party, or at the door helping to hand out candy. And you could also do like I did in the past, I would have two sets of candy, conitnued "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Nov 12, 2009 1:49 PM:

" Diane, continued:

I would give out cheaper candy, sometimes even last years leftovers, to those that I didn't know or felt that they were not celebrating in the true sense, and hold back the good candy for those neighborhood children that I knew, and in some instances to those children who were polite, said Trick or Treat, and I saw "a" parent waiting back at the sidewalk. If I saw both parents, then it was the leftover stuff, because my first thoughts is who is at there house handing out candy.

So to all of you who thought the Grinch had a small heart, now you know someone who may have a smaller one.

Yes I like seeing the small children having fun, but please let us return to that age of innocence when Trick or Treating was for the local neighborhood and for mostly children aged 5 -14 who could really enjoy the pure essence of Halloween. "

TurtledOne wrote on Nov 12, 2009 2:50 PM:

" After reading this article, I want to say I fully agree with the fact that it's sad the cars, vans and suvs that come to the "nicer" neighborhoods to go trick or treating. I too feel that costumes should be worn if you are going to trick or treat. I don't care how old you are trick or treating as long as you are in a real costume.

As for your comment about mom's pushing babies in strollers for candy..I took my kids trick or treating and my cousin brought her 9 month old son in a stroller...big deal. He was in a costume and having lots of fun. As did she making memories with pictures and family bonding time.

So please if you are going to be that hard on people do turn your lite of and stay in, otherwise lighten up. "

kermit the frog wrote on Nov 12, 2009 3:52 PM:

" Right on! This is exactly what we do too. Parents who bus their kids to the "rich neighborhoods" are despicable. The north side hands out the good chocolate candy, while the south side has the cheap stuff no one wants. It may be fun and cute to see the little kids dressed up, but as they get older and greedier, they are just reduced to little beggars. My entire street has always been completely dark on Halloween. I was hoping it was a sign of the times and families were opting for the mall or churches. "

Amanda R wrote on Nov 12, 2009 4:16 PM:

" I know about those convoys. Drives me nuts when a car full of kids comes to my neighborhood and expects for everyone to give. I understand some of the kids coming through my neighborhood this year live in rural areas, since they attend the school I work at. In this case, they were kids I knew and didn't mind giving candy to. The farm next door doesn't have much to offer LOL. Don't take your kids all around town expecting to take from everyone. Stick to your neighborhood and everyone will get their share!
babyluv: There isn't much a baby under one should be eating. For our sons' first Halloweens, we did a playdate with friends, and exchanged baby-safe snacks and treats. This year, we took our 15month-old and three year-old around OUR neighborhood, along with two neighbor's kids. We did push our youngest because his costume wasn't exactly made for walking on cement (oops!) but we let him walk to people's doors and made sure all the kids said "Trick-or-treat" and a very polite "Thank you". I'm glad my children have good manners, and they both made me very proud.I'm looking forward to many fun Halloweens! "

cynic wrote on Nov 13, 2009 10:20 AM:

" I do not live in one of those "drive to" neighborhoods but I experience some of the same rudeness. No one says "Trick or Treat?", adults carry sacks and no one says "Thank you". "

grannygoose wrote on Nov 13, 2009 11:38 AM:

" Sad, but true. Alot of people feel the same way about the "grown-ups" dragging their very small kids out for the Trick-or-Treats when the little ones are obviousley not going to eat most of the types of candies being handed out. Some are indeed just being greedy, but I know when I would take my small children out, it was usually because I had other kids to take and was going to be out anyway. I just thought it was cute! If people offered candy to the small one, I would accept. If they did not, that was ok too. I did feel bad for my pre-teens and teens though. They would be so excited to get to act goofy and dress in outfits they would never be caught dead in otherwise. The pre-teens were less likely to go out because they thaught they were too cool (they were the ones I would give the babie's candy to) and the teens were just wanting to have fun. That was better than knowing they were wanting to do drugs or drink on holloween instead. "

gees wrote on Nov 13, 2009 1:00 PM:

" Greedy indeed, Tell me what newborn to 1 year old will remember Halloween? I agree with Diane, it's blackout time at out house. Last year we had a Kid 9-10 or so flashing gang signs when we told him there was not more candy, he was not even in costume!
WE ARE DONE! It feels good to be a Grinch. "

mandaa wrote on Nov 13, 2009 1:27 PM:

" this year was my daughters first halloween..my mom asked if i was gonna take her trick or trreating i had said no because shes too little, its cold and i personally i dont like candy.(im weird i guess) my niece and nephew are in high school and they still trick or treat. they never grew out of it. i want to say that they are austistic but never got the diagnosis. when they came over in there costumes i thought to myself that no one was going to give them candy bcuz they are grown up kids. but they did. im sure this woman lives on the nicer side of town and everyone expects the candy is better over there. well that what we thought when i was younger.
maybe you could just give one piece of candy to each kid. and when your neighborhood kids come by have a special little goddie bag for them. it might work. that way you wouldnt think you are the halloween grinch. :o) "

ANGIE wrote on Nov 13, 2009 3:49 PM:

" If you must judge everyone who comes to your door and stress on the manner in which they do it then don't hand out any candy. It would be better to turn away a trick or treater (deny them your candy) than it would be to give them a candy and then judge them, ridicule them, and build up hatred and anger towards them. But you people would rather do the latter than actually keep it real. With everything going on with kids these days this is pretty petty. "

Bobb wrote on Nov 13, 2009 5:26 PM:

" The solution is very simple, if you do not wish to participate, turn out the lights in front and don't give anything out. This is a free county so it is ones choice what they wish to do or if they even recognize this occasion. I am somewhat of a GRINCH myself and think this tends to teach kids to demand treats, read freebies, or else. My wife loves the kids in costume and enjoys giving out the candy so I go along with her on this one. No need to get the panties in an uproar as it is OK not to participate. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 13, 2009 6:53 PM:

" You have to be kidding me. Suck it up as some would say. If you don't want to participate just turn off your light and turn off your complaining while you're at it. If you don't want to pay for candy for all of Hanford just wait until Obama make you pay for all their health care. "

Granny wrote on Nov 14, 2009 8:20 AM:

" FYI we in the older neighborhoods get the same car loads, moms with sick kids at home, highschoolers taller then myself. This year instead of staying in the dark I decided to dress up and give them a scare. Remember it is called TRICK or Treat. I had a great time. Many kids and parents alike jumped or screamed. So try enjoying it next year and purchase less expensive treats. Or perhaps you can give to the new food bank opening up. It's all in good fun. "

Bobb wrote on Nov 14, 2009 7:16 PM:

" Let us not get too upset over some kids trick or treating. It comes with the territory. We have some Public Servants TRICKING and TREATING all year so it is not such a big leap for the kids. Just label it FUTURE JOB TRAINING. "

Ms. MLC wrote on Nov 15, 2009 5:29 AM:

" WoW what a bunch of Halloween Scrooges. I live on a very dark and old street with very few trick or treaters. I would of gladly gave to any child/person who came by.

Over the years I too loaded up my children and drove to a well lighted area for trick or treating. Sorry that some don't see the safety aspect of it. Even children who live on farms like to trick or treat. Why should they be punished from enjoying the night because they have no neighborhood to trick or treat in.

I also agree with a previous poster, I would rather have a teen trick or treating then have them vandalizing, stealing, doing drugs or trick or treating for sexual favors.

Enjoy children of all ages... "

kermit the frog wrote on Nov 15, 2009 8:49 AM:

" Toldyouso, we are already paying for lots of other people's healthcare. MediCal. Medicare. I don't think much is going to change except redirecting money. I hope many more people do get legitimate coverage, because the way it is now, the government pays for tons of uninsured patients. "

char wrote on Nov 15, 2009 6:56 PM:

" wow I'm shocked, I mean I see the car loads of kids too but I always just assumed they were coming to a safer neighborhood to trick or treat because not everyone lives in a safe area. But mainly I wanted to comment that maybe you should not be so quick to judge I took my son out when he was 4 in a stroller because he has Cerebral Palsy and walking is difficult and tiring for him. One woman told him that if he wanted candy he would have to get out and walk up like all the other children and that if he was too tired maybe he should be done. Which made him feel terrible and he cried and wanted to go home which we did and now I do load them up and I take them to family members only. So by all means turn out the lights and sit in the back but if you do open your door....be nice! And for the record my son still thanked her anyways! "

yaknow wrote on Nov 15, 2009 8:22 PM:

" ignorance breeds hatred & contempt...honestly people this kind of attitude is despicable!! "

yaknow wrote on Nov 15, 2009 10:46 PM:

" just an observation....why do all the blogs always turn into the HAVES & HAVE NOTS...how in the world did a discussion about HALLOWEEN turn into paying for other peoples healthcare???? and by the way MEDICARE is a deduction taken out of our paychecks...ergo...paid for by the people not the governmentt * MEDICAL is fully government funded!!!!! "

RuffDiamond wrote on Nov 16, 2009 3:05 PM:

" I understand you Diane. As a mother of a trick-or-treater for the last 10 years I have more to add and I agree with you entirely. One year we looked for safe alternatives than door to door. We saw the mall advertisement. The mall was out of candy in less than eight minutes after starting. My little one was crushed. We then went to a trunk or treat to find very little...but the same families from the mall there walking away with full pillow cases. If I had resolve to go north just to look that year, I'm sure I would have seen them there as well. It doesn't make it enjoyable for the little ones who wanted to experience a little of Halloween. I bet these people don't read the paper or care about blogs. "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Nov 17, 2009 1:56 PM:

" to RuffDiamond, well stated. If only Haloween could go back to the innocence of times past, I don't even mind the pranks of past, i.e. T.P. a house, soap up a window, things that don't do serious damage. But it should be a night of fun for the small children that are big enough to say "Trick or Treat" or something close. But don't expect me to give a child with a pacifier asleep in a stroller any candy. Can't imagine how much of that "fun" the child will be able to remember or cherish.
High school kids shouldn't be out looking for candy, they should be having a party and bobbing for apples, or sitting around telling ghost stories. So those of you that abuse the holiday, don't blame us if more streets go dark! "

ToldYouSo wrote on Nov 17, 2009 5:33 PM:

" Oh, just to confirm, yes you are definitely a grinch. "

Alihandero wrote on Nov 18, 2009 6:01 AM:

" Well, some here pointed out that a large segment of people are conditioned to EXPECT FREE HANDOUTS!

Is this not true?

So we now have a 'beggar mentality' that puts pure greed into a traditional holiday that used to be fun for all.

Now it's a 'free for all' - literally!

Ah yes; America, how it changes... "

Con Carne wrote on Nov 21, 2009 8:40 AM:

" It really is hilarious to see people on here complaining about having to give some candy to kids on this thread, but defending social welfare programs on other threads (HereWeGo). What's the difference? A handout is a handout. I guess its OK if the government is giving the handouts because they print their own money right? "




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