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Illegal immigrant crackdown brewing in Kings?

By Eiji Yamashita
eyamashita@HanfordSentinel.com

In the early morning hours Aug. 7, Rick Gonzales stopped at a gas station just outside of Lemoore during his delivery work and raised his eyebrows.

The Hanford resident just saw two young federal agents in blue Homeland Security uniforms, armed with 9-millimeter automatic weapons, making a rest stop there.

Outside the store on Highway 41 and Grangeville Boulevard was a van with a blue logo that says: "U.S. Immigration Service/Homeland Security."

"You hear about Homeland Security all the time, but you don't normally see them here," Gonzales said. "I've never seen law enforcement in that type of uniform before."

Gonzales wasn't alone to witness the presence of Homeland Security agents in the area last week.

A similar Homeland Security vehicle was also sighted on 10th Avenue near Lacey Boulevard by some residents on the same day.

This rare sighting of federal immigration law enforcement here comes on the heels of the federal authorities' recent announcement that they would step up enforcement to crack down on the illegal hiring of undocumented workers by businesses.

Federal officials this week neither confirmed nor denied the enforcement activities in the south Valley.

"I do not have any knowledge of enforcement in the Fresno area," said Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman Lori Haley on Wednesday. "The agency has an ongoing worksite investigation, and it could be lengthy. And we don't talk about ongoing investigations."

It remains unknown what the Homeland Security agents were doing in Lemoore and why.

At the center of debate right now is the Bush administration's new so-called "no-match" policy, referring to a letter sent to employers each year advising that workers' names and numbers don't match the agency's records.

In a new effort to crack down on illegal immigrants, the federal agency last week announced tough rules that would require employers to fire workers who use fake Social Security numbers. The regulation is due to take effect any time now.

The new policy would allow Immigration and Customs Enforcement -- the agency of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security -- to go after employers with criminal penalties for failure to act on no-match letters.

But Haley said immigration agents' presence in Hanford is unrelated to the new no-match policy.

The agency's efforts are continuing and no one geographic area has been specifically targeted, she said.

"We are always enforcing in all kinds of laws," said Haley. "We do workplace enforcement. We have our fugitive operations. We do all kinds of investigation, and this is ongoing."

Yet, officials say the new rules would be reinforced by increased raids aimed at finding undocumented workers and penalizing their employers.

Haley says that the agency has long been stepping up its enforcement in recent months since the Secure Border Initiative launched in 2005 to reduce illegal migration and tackle national security threats.

"We have been increasing our effort as part of the initiative," Haley said. "The first phase was better border control and the second phase is interior enforcement. We're at our second phase."

Currently, there are 61 immigration and customs enforcement teams throughout the country. The Hanford area is covered by a team in Bakersfield, Haley said. Plans call for adding 14 more by the end of the year, including one in Fresno, she said.

The reporter can be reached at 582-0471, ext. 3059.

(Aug. 17, 2007)

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I hope so. wrote on Aug 17, 2007 3:40 PM:

" The feds to come by and deport several people. They can start at Walmart, then go to Foods Co. On Welfare Friday it is almost impossible to hear English spoken at either location. "

VT wrote on Aug 17, 2007 3:54 PM:

" It's about time something is being done about the illegal’s that are crowding our Emergency Rooms, selling drugs and getting involved in gangs and committing crimes of all kinds. I for one welcome them and hope they will be here for a lengthy stay. For those who will say people like myself are prejudiced, well my answer to that is, YES I am, but not against anyone’s color, race or religion. I am prejudiced to high medical costs, to selecting what language I want to hear or read something in when this is an English speaking country, I could go on but I think I have made my point. I can not come into your home and ask you too feed and clothe me and my family and pay our medical bills so why should we do this for people who have entered this country illegally? Yes, I say bring on the federal immigration law enforcement. I wish for everyone a better life but the LAW is the LAW and neither you nor I can break it without consequence and therefore if they want to come here for a better life let them do it legally. "

Good! wrote on Aug 17, 2007 7:39 PM:

" Good! About time! They need to do something about the illegal problem!! Try going to work by the backroads some morning.. There are a LOT of vehicles that are beat up, smoking, and have WAY out of date registration on them... and guess what, alot of them are likely illegals as well.. beat up farm labor vehicles aside, I know for a FACT that there are a lof of illegals in Kings county. Many have come here, had children who automatically become american citizens (which is WRONG< just because your parents make it across the border in time to have you should NOT 'make you an American' automatically), and since their kids are here and citizens they are here... Some of who commit crimes (drunk driving for example) and merely disappear or run back across the border, and come back as 'someone else'... "

to i hope so wrote on Aug 17, 2007 11:11 PM:

" ronnie opened the gates for them in the 80's and bush almost opened them even wider just a few months ago. so you don't hear english, they are in gangs and sell drugs, oh and let's not forget that they drive beat up cars. let's see, who blew up that building in oklahama? and we only hear about that on the anniversary. and then "DOG" went after that Max guy that raped girls and he went to mexico. moral: white people commit brutal crimes also but people of color, lock them up or send them back to where their from. funny how right before an election these problems come up and the federal gov't gets tough and then after the election they get soft again. get mad at washington before you get mad at these people. "

lmartinez wrote on Aug 18, 2007 12:05 AM:

" I agree with VT & Good. I dont think its ok to come here illigally, people should come here legally and work for their families.They work when they live in their countries. All of a sudden they come here and want all the aide for free and then get lazy and dont want to go to work. If they county is going to help immagrants or people that come here, the county should have a time limit to the aide to find employment. Well we'll see what happens with Homeland Security. "

G.S. wrote on Aug 19, 2007 1:46 AM:

" WELL FIRST OF ALL LET ME SAY A FEW THINGS IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE ILLEGALS THERE WOULD BE NO FRUIT,NO BUS BOYS, NO COOKS,NO ONE TO CLEAN DIRTY BATHROOMS,NO MAIDS, ETC. WHY? BECAUSE THE AMERICAN CITIZENS THEMSELVES WOULD NOT DO THESE KIND OF DIRTY JOBS!! SO WHY BAG ON THE ILLEGALS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT WE ALL LIKE TO EAT THE FRUIT & VEGTABLES THAT ILLEGALS PICK. AND IF IT WEREN'T FOR THEM WE WOULD NO FRUIT & VEGGIES TO EAT.RIGHT? THEY DO SOME HARD WORK OUT THERE IN THAT HOT SUN. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME BLACKS, WHITES,AND THE MEXICAN AMEERICANS OUT THERE PICKING THE FRUIT AND CHOPPING COTTON WHEN IT IS 100 OR MORE DEGREES OUTSIDE. "

G.V. wrote on Aug 19, 2007 1:54 AM:

" Why attack on the ILLEGALS? If there weren't so many drug addicts there wouldn't be so much drugs brought in but since there is the demand is high.Not only does illegals sell drugs but also americans sell as well.WE ARE THE ILLEGALS BECAUSE THIS LAND BELONGS TO THE INDIANS NOT THE AMERICANS REMEMBER THE INDIANS SETTLED HERE FIRST.I wonder how the USA would look like without illegals? NOT GOOD! "

Legall wrote on Aug 19, 2007 2:56 PM:

" Farmers can pay a livable rate, and our community can fill the jobs, Don't we have alot of unemployed sitting at home collecting our tax dollars? We do not need workers from another country. "

TWO TRUTHS RESPONDS wrote on Aug 20, 2007 2:33 AM:

" First, the 'illegals' are criminals already just by sneaking into our country. Period. Second, the Natives were not NATIVE to the Americas and didn't own it. THEY came from ASIA across the Alaska/ASIA land bridge before the end of the last ice age, so they were ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS right from the get-go. LESSON OVER. "

a lame arguement wrote on Aug 20, 2007 4:12 AM:

" The whole "no one else will do that work.....yady yady yady" is lame. Bottom line lame. There are people who would and do. Show me some proof that this arguement is valid! You can't because it's a theory......Dohhhh!!!!! ICE I hope you sweep, sweep and sweep some more!!!! And to the people who think this land is really Indian land and that we are all the same, i.e. immigrants....I don't recall this land being as full of opportunity when Mexico or natives owned it. Nope...Just use Kings County as an example with it's welfare and its demographics "

MV wrote on Aug 20, 2007 9:31 AM:

" To Gs and a lot of other people on this illegal problem. The best way to fix our illegal immigration problem is to leave the illegals alone and start with the Farmer . If you look around in Kings County and all the farm communities in our state. You see nothing but large homes and New pickup trucks every other year. Since Jimmy Carter started the farm subsidy programs back in the 70’s , they have stuck around since and multiplied. The subsidy programs have gotten so stupid , that now they even pay the farmer not to plant certain crops. Wow why not pay me when I don’t show up to work etc. The Farmers are paying the illegals $5.00 or $6.00 dollars an hour , so the rest of the country can flip the bill for their medical and so on. Our Government needs to implicate a good tax on farmer for every illegal they hire. Make the farmer pay , if food price goes up some, no problem , I’d rather pay $.40 cents more for a pound of corn , wheat, fruits, veggies, etc. than an extra $1000. 00 per year on taxes. "

2senseworth wrote on Aug 20, 2007 1:19 PM:

" No one is saying we don't need someone to do that extra work.Some Americans don't want to even do high paying jobs.The thing is we all have to be responsible citizens.Responsible for our kids,responsible for ourselves and have consideration for those around us.Don't pretend white peoples kids are so innocent,you don't see Mexican kids killing their parents for money here in this town or murdering little girls,think about who was responsible for the worse crimes in this town.And who's at the Mall street entrances asking for handouts.And Cliques are just another verison of gangs.Ok so stop making illegals look like they are total crimanals.What we need is too take down all those signs at Target and everywhere else and make a sink or swim enviroment.They left their country for a better life,so they say, then give that life up and learn to fit into ours.Learn to speak and read english.And stop hanging out in front of their yards like a group of people waiting for a bus with 20 cars on the lawn and blocking the road sheesh(dead giveaway). "

GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY wrote on Aug 20, 2007 10:02 PM:

" You say: "Ok so stop making illegals look like they are total crimanals(sic)" . . . First off, Chief, LEARN TO SPELL. Next, send them back from whence they came because they are illegal CRIMINALS already (crim-anals?). Back to ANY COUNTRY, NOT JUST THE SPANISH-SPEAKING ones, OK? We are not prejudiced then, see? And forget about the 20 plus relatives per house sitting on the front lawn with all the broken-down cars. WE have to accept their culture and language DON'T YOU KNOW, or else the liberal democrats will have a hizzy fit and the ACLU will come after you for human rights violations. Let them have their babies here for free and then make the illegal baby a full citizen so they never have to worry about deportation. How long can we put up with this crapola, my friends? I would rather pick my own veggies and cut my own grass to save the money I now waste on taxes and government freebies for the so-called ‘immigrants.' "

to two truths wrote on Aug 20, 2007 11:03 PM:

" the problem with your lesson for the day is that the Indians that come here from Asia didn't declare war on the inhabitants that were already here because THERE WEREN'T ANY!!!!! they were living peacefully when the pilgrims took over the land that didn't belong to them and started to kill off the SAVAGES in God's name. oh, and then there was the matter of manifest destiny, from sea to shiny sea. Please don't make yourself out to be God's spokesperson and pretend you know what was happening here thousands of years ago when the word boundary or illegal didn't exist. "

to imartinez wrote on Aug 20, 2007 11:07 PM:

" you are a sorry example to your culture. please, change your name you coconut. "

Yup! wrote on Aug 21, 2007 7:25 AM:

" Yup, everyone is ready to bash on those darn illegal immigrants... but what about all the LAZY TRASH that sit on their butts all day long and live off of welfare? Yeah, illegal immigrants may be getting free aide but atleast they bust their butts working in the fields. "

2senseworth wrote on Aug 21, 2007 12:41 PM:

" Excuse my typo GGMM .No your not predjudice..just a narrow minded LOUD person I must have hit a nerve somewhere for you to make a big deal over a simple typo :P Relax your backhairs woman it's only a disscussion. "

2senseworth wrote on Aug 21, 2007 9:41 PM:

" You know up there I was joking about the 20 cars ect.I love Carlos Mencias humor.But I do mean it when I say learn to read and speak english.Not in a discrimatory way either.This country is made of many nationalities from all over the world.We became a great country by being united.We became untied by understanding each other.What if everyone keep speaking their navtive language?I can speak Spanish,but I don't even understand what many Spanish speaking people are saying.It's a different Spanish then what I grew up with.Or that you learn in school.Many Asians and other nationalities have come here,but they don't need special signs or bilingual classes,They learn to speak English.They need to understand that by not assimulating into American Culture,they are causing problems that make people want to block them from coming here and costing the taxpayers money.You wouldn't ask a person in line to tie your shoe because you never bothered to learn.I still don't think these people are"Criminals"they are here Illegally.The word"Criminal"should be used for those who really commit a crime such as I mentioned above.Criminals can't undo what they have done by making it legal,Illegals can become legal citizens. "

LEGAL wrote on Aug 21, 2007 9:47 PM:

" To anyone who is a natural or a person who went thru the process of getting a work visa and/ or made the effort of becoming a us citizen you have nothing to worry about. But, if you are here illegal and are currently slipping thru the cracks. I have real bad newz for you. Its coming to an end very soon. NO MORE CERVEZAS!!! The US calvarly is coming to town with fully automatic weapons and the full arsenal. Yiu can run but you can't hide. Do the right thing and go back to your country and take the legal steps of becoming a US citizen, PLEASE.! "

To G.S. wrote on Aug 21, 2007 9:57 PM:

" You are correct. I have just moved to california a few months ago and I am shocked how so many people attack people who are doing jobs that most will not do.WE should be very thankful for the people who do this work. There are so many people who love to judge others who have less fortune than the they do. Thank You for Having a Heart PEACE "

TO LEGAL wrote on Aug 22, 2007 2:01 AM:

" Way to go, my citizen friend. Thank you for trying to protect my family and the AMERICAN (NOT MEXICAN OR CANADIAN OR RUSSIAN OR HMONG etc.) way of life. Illegals come here from all over the world, rape our economy, tax the overburdened system, eat up healthcare and school resources, and then want to keep their own culture and language AT OUT EXPENSE. As a once great boxer cried out in despair: 'No Mas . . . No Mas!'!' "

Anonymous wrote on Aug 22, 2007 7:47 AM:

" I would like to say to all those comments said to the illegal immigrants, first of all if the illegals get deported from our country I think we would all day of hunger, because thier the one's doing the work here, when do you see any other race besides hispanic doing the work or working for minimum wage or less. If the homeland security started showing up at kings county they should start at the welfare dept. and not walmart or foods. co and get the ones that depend on that money every first of the month and leave the ones that come to work alone. Dont get me wrong I am not prejudiced! We all know that's true! "

Devil's Advocate wrote on Aug 22, 2007 8:21 AM:

" Immigration has always been a tremendous benefit to our country, with people seeing the US as a land of opportunity and freedom for everyone inside its borders. Unfortunately, the last 60 years has made our country known for something else: we are the land of the "dole", the "safety net", the "right" to food, medical care, and shelter. Its not that illegal immigration is in itself all that bad, its that it pours fuel on a social ill that is consuming our resources like a wildfire. Legal immigrants typically have the skills that keep them out of rolls, illegal immigrants often don't - so illegal immigration COMBINED with the welfare state is the issue. Show a political ad with a little girl dying from a disease that simple medical care could have prevented, but she didn't get because her parents were afraid of ICE just enough to not see a doctor but not afraid enough to become citizens or re-immigrate to Mexico, and we'll vote to provide free medical care. We just can't say no. Its not that our hearts are too big; its just that they are bigger than our brains. "

AR wrote on Aug 22, 2007 8:27 AM:

" this whole thread should not be here to bash mexicans, but all illegal immigrants. america was built, mostly, on the backs of immigrants, but ones who chose to come here legally and work hard to become american and do things the right way. my great grandparents came here (legally) and while they spoke their language to eachother, in public and to their children, they only spoke english. ALL illegal immigrants should learn english, learn our ways, and try to live by them. im sick of seeing people flying their flags before they'll fly an american flag and that is quite frustrating. if you want to be AMERICAN act like it! and saying they do jobs noone else wants to do is wrong. when we first moved to the valley, my husband applied for many jobs he was well qualified for (if not overqualified) and was bypassed in favor of illegals because they could get them for a lower rate. so i agree that businesses are partly to blame, they want hard work for nothing. so if they were to raise their wages, there would be plenty of americans willing to do the jobs. "

lmartinez wrote on Aug 22, 2007 9:59 AM:

" First of all its lmartinez not imartinez, second of all I'm a good example to my culture. You don't know what type of back ground I come from and you don't know what type of man I'm married to. If you did you might have thought twice about judging me. Third of all no matter who you are or what race you are, people can't be making excuse's for their lives and say I want to be this when I grow up, or when I get to the United States. If you have goals try to reach them, don't talk about it. Also there is plenty of opportunity here in our country and counties. People just don't use their brains to get ahead like they plan to. And to GS not just illegals work in the field and packing houses, I did as well, until I decided to go to school and make a better living for me and my children. People are quick to judge. Life is what you make of it, legal or not as individuals we have choices, it's called Freedom. The question is what are you going to do with it? Flush it down the drain. "

Fed Up wrote on Aug 22, 2007 1:24 PM:

" It's about time, now round um up and move um out! The farming industry will adjust when push comes to shove and there may be a few good paying construction jobs available in the near future. This whole discussion reminds me of Preisdent Bush's declaration of WMD's - "oh California will fold without the hard working immigrants to support you lazy legals". Yeah, whatever. Like the weapons that weren't there, California will be just fine without all the baggage of a huge illegal drain. "

STOP IT, STOP IT NOW wrote on Aug 22, 2007 2:15 PM:

" Oh, man, I've really had it. Why do you continue to say 'my race' or 'my culture' or 'my language?' If you want to keep these things, don't leave your native land, stay there, and be proud to be there. Don't come to America unless you actually want to become an American. If you want to be a 'guest worker' to take all the crappy jobs and then send your money home to support your folks, OK! We need a program for you all. Just don't expect the get all of the benefits of a regular U.S. citizen unless you show some American cultural respect, learn English, and show us that you would be damn proud to be an American citizen with all of the rights and responsibilities that come with it. And forget about having babies here that are automatically U.S. citizens. If that is not the most stupid law, well, what else is? That law was passed circa the 1860's to prevent newly freed slaved from being denied citizenship. It no longer applies to current circumstances. "

GIVE AND TAKE wrote on Aug 22, 2007 3:02 PM:

" About California politics: People don't always understand the basics. If you are a 'liberal' you want to give things away to people and take resources away from the non-needy to do so. 'Liberal' also connotes the freedom to do what you want, when you want, government be damned. If you are 'conservative' your nature is to keep and preserve the traditions that made America great. You 'conserve' natural resources, taxes, and the like and are reticent to give away things to others for any reason, just to make yourself feel better. Bottom line: if you all learn to 'conserve' American traditions, prosperity, and culture, we might just be able to survive the terrorist onslaught from within and without. "

M.C wrote on Aug 22, 2007 8:19 PM:

" I been reading all these interested comments, Yeah I'll say that the Homeland Security should start by going to the Welfare Dept. and take those who only depend on that money every first of the month and leave the ones who come to work alone. The government should place close attention to what people they open the doors to when they enter our country and end up terrorizing and taking over our liqour stores. So not just illegal immigrants (hispanics or mexicans) are considered criminals. "

East Hanford Resident wrote on Aug 22, 2007 8:48 PM:

" wow..im suprised so many local people are opposed, im a young hispanic workin part-time and going to school, am i using drugs? nope selling drugs? nope.....do i drive a ghetto old car? nope...i dont get it, some Americans are prejucide and hypocritical...and im really hopyin immigrants such as Latinos and Asians, become the majority soon , "White" people will become the minority, and guess whos going to roll the ball in the government. Im also gonna be like some people who oppose the presence of ICE, whos going to do the immigrants job? Not me, and probably a doctor or a lawyer wont go to the fields and pick fruits and vegetables. Some opposed to illegal immigrants say theres alot of unemployed people, but trust me, ill rather be unemployed than in the fields when its 105 in the summer...and one more thing, white people should see reality, immigrants will grow and grow, theres no stoping them...so good luck takin out illgal immigrants!! and i doubt the government will get rid of all illegals in this nation. "

TRASH PICKUP wrote on Aug 23, 2007 1:58 AM:

" This last post shows how wrong is the statement " all men are created equal." Trash is trash, and the third world is coming here, big time! America used to be a great country... "

Legal and proud... wrote on Aug 23, 2007 9:37 AM:

" The people you are speaking so badly about are not even reading this. Call, write or email your congressman. Immigrants should come to the U.S.A. legally, employeers should not hire anybody illegally. If we must hire persons from across the border, they should use work visa's. Welfare benefits should not be given to anyone without a legal work history. Children born in California to illegal's should not be citizens. What is so bad about Mexico that their people swarm over here? Our government should not send trade to Mexico if they cannot make it admirable to work there. LEGAL "

Fed Up wrote on Aug 23, 2007 1:07 PM:

" Another solution...for years I've spoken of my hatred for the fast pace which Kings County is loosing it's small town farm community feel. Well maybe this is the blessing in disguise. Without fields to plant and fruit to harvest there is no need for the vast majority of illegal aliens. So come on Centex, throw up another subdivision. This equates to 1 home + 10 less trees = negative one illegal. Problem solved!! "

Dear Fed Up wrote on Aug 23, 2007 5:49 PM:

" GOOD ONE! "

tax payer wrote on Aug 23, 2007 8:22 PM:

" THIS IS FOR THE COMMENT THAT I HOPE SO WROTE. FYI On Friday's its payday for the people that work for a living. The ILLEGALS are here to do the jobs that you welfare people should be doing. I would not complain because the government keeps the tax and social security money that they pay for you to get YOUR CHECK EVERY MONTH. So the next time you see a ILLEGAL take the time to thank him for your check. "

ignorance wrote on Aug 23, 2007 9:20 PM:

" Many of the posters need to go back in history and read about the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (1848), and look at the rights that the United States government provided for Mexicans who were living here, yet the US government never upheld the treaty, or did we forget this was Mexico before "whites" began to squat on their land? Please, before you begin to make generalizations, and go off of stereotypes do some research, look at who the majority on welfare are, no surprise their whites!! Is that a shocker....Please remember you live in California, and regardless of your objections against undocumented individuals, it is called the push and pull theory, Mexico negates their economy and pushes their citizens out, while the United States has created prime employment opportunities. Why? Well remember capitalism....we want to make the most profit with the least cost...it's not whether or not people are willing to do the jobs or whether its mexicans/blacks/asians etc willing to the job, its the fact that our capitalist society is looking for the cheapest way to make money. It just happens to be that Mexico is the closest neighbor. Please read, do research and then post... "

Sick and Tired of all this Racism wrote on Aug 23, 2007 9:23 PM:

" We need to look at the positive economic changes immigrants have brought to this country. If we look a the demographics of the city we have a very diverse community. We are a society of Immigrants, HAVE WE FORGOTTEN THAT! Now for those who say we live in an English speaking community I would like to argue with that. We are a community of many languages not just one. Yes, this is the law. But who says the law is correct. Years ago we lived in segregated communities and that was the law was that right NO. Years ago slavery was legal was that correct NO! And finally to respond to one of the last comments , I have never heard that the Pilgrims filed for a travel visa to enter this country! "

Devil's Advocate wrote on Aug 24, 2007 9:10 AM:

" If we can get people to "do jobs no one else wants to do" and deny them a living wage or equal protection to do it though fear of being uprooted from where they live - what have we created? I would call it slavery, or perhaps indentured servitude. Notice the jobs are in the fields, as servants, or in sweatshops. Some even have "overseers". If you want to have a compassionate stand in this issue, fight aainst illegal immigration, not because of unpaid ER visits that would get paid if the workers had benefits, not because illegal immigrants end up on welfare roles that they fear to apply for, not for jobs that they are supposedly stealing that the employers are barely paying minimum wage to have done - do it so the land of opportunity won't have a slave class for us to look down on. And make it easier for people that want a decent chance in a place with paved roads and police that don't want bribes to do their jobs by greatly expanding the number of people that can legally enter this country. "

AR wrote on Aug 24, 2007 11:06 AM:

" in reponse to "sick and tired of all this racism": the pilgrims didnt need a visa because it was not THE LAW. what they did was perfectly legal, whereas the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS (of all races, mind you) are breaking the LAW by entering ILLEGALLY. all these people who are defending illegal immigration, do you not realize the meaning of the word ILLEGAL? Illegal, or unlawful, is used to describe something that is prohibited or not authorized by law. the point is they are breaking the law, regardless of what they do when they are here. would you allow someone to live in your home who breaks in and then does all your chores, cleans your house and such? no, because it is still ILLEGAL! "

BUY THE WAY... wrote on Aug 24, 2007 2:56 PM:

" Good analogy, AR, but not only would you have to let them live in your home, YOU would have to let them speak their own language, decorate with their own tastes, bring their numerous relatives to stay in the same room or even yours, cook their own food, pray to their own god(s), pay the hospital to deliver all of their new-citizen babies, pay for their general health care, and so on and so forth. Perhaps it would be easier just to deed your house over to them and 'get out of Dodge.' I know of several great cheap places in Baja and Costa Rica . . . "

EHR wrote on Aug 24, 2007 4:09 PM:

" Dear AR, i think you should also oppose the U.S. government because it also does "ILLEGAL" things, why not oppose them? is it because you think the government is always right? yes i know "ILLEGAL" is "ILLEGAL" but tell me,. what have illegal immigrants done to you,? or is it because ur a conformist, and you follow your "white" society, everything the majority say its right and ethic, even though their racists and prejudice. Yes, theres some negative impacts because illegals, but also positive impacts, and the positive impacts of illegal immigrants outweight the negative ones.Yes i understand the definition of "Illegal" , its breaking the law, but why not just let them stay, yes laws are laws, but are they always right, NO! i do agree for more border security, but throwing out illegal immigrants is a down right stupidity by the government, its basically hurting its economy, this is basically another bad reputation for the U.S. beside the war in Iraq and other foreign problems, the world's view towards the U.S. will get worse if the government doesnt change its policies So next time your enjoyin a sweet delicious fruit, thank an illegal immigrant. :) "

missing the point, again! wrote on Aug 24, 2007 8:24 PM:

" "WE ARE A COMMUNITY OF MANY LANGUAGES....." Oh really, then why did you respond to this blog in English? Why are all the responses here in English. When Congress is in session, why do they speak in English? When the courts are in session, why do the judges preside in English? Last but not the least, when pres-school, elementary, middle school, high school, junior college, undergraduate college, post graduate, medical school, law school, etc are taught, why are they taught in English? So tell me again, even though we are a "community of many languages" as some of you say, the fact remains that you are now in America. If you want your children to speak Spanish and watch soccer all day long so they grow up to be succesful cotton pickers and gardeners and farm workers, then why not just stay in Mexico? If you want to succeed in America, either you assimilate the culture and master the language or you will relegate yourself to a life of mediocrity. You and your children and their children.....Maybe I should have responded in Spanish instead. Ay caramba! "

DO WE NEED THEM wrote on Aug 25, 2007 3:57 AM:

" Well, the last piece of 'delicious fruit' I enjoyed was grown, picked, and shipped in from SOUTH AMERICA, so I guess we can rule out illegal aliens there...and the price was darn cheap, too! Someone give us another smoke-and mirrors answer why illegal immigrants are so darn important to AMERICA? Think hard, people... "

dont get me started... wrote on Aug 25, 2007 7:35 AM:

" First of all...if ANY of you knew your history, not political, you would know that California used to be Mexico. So they lost it in a war. Big Freakin Deal! The only true native americans aren't the whites. It is the Skins! The Indians were here LONG before any of your ancestors came here. SO BACK OFF THE ILLEGALS! You white and blacks are illegals too so why mess with Mexicans? Dont you have anything better to do than to bag on the hardest working race this country has seen. Second to the Natives. I do not agree with illegal Mexicans coming straight over here from Mexico without papers, Especially the women who come, have babies here and want welfare. This disgusts me! However, in all fairness...I see alot of white dirty looking women wanting free money too. Remember this people...for every finger you point out. Three are pointing back at you! "

Ron wrote on Aug 25, 2007 8:08 AM:

" This action is long overdue. The state and even more so Kings County is saturated with illegals that we all know encourage unethical business practices and invite a criminal aspect to the area. The quality of life in the area has become degraded over the last 25 years because of the influx. WalMart is a filthy mess. The ERs are not much better. The economic bill being footed by legitimate taxpayers is burdening. One need only need to read a police blotter or watch the evening news to learn where the main crime element is in the community. We got fed up with the sewer CA had become some years ago and have no intent to return. Since leaving we have met numerous people that had done the same with a common theme being the state is crime ridden and no longer resembles America. I for one welcome this police action and hope it has the widest possible implications in restoring the valley to a part of America in line with the remainder of the country. "

ignorance wrote on Aug 25, 2007 2:10 PM:

" to "missing the point, again" unfortunately as I continue to read the thread, more and more are going on the basis of stereotypes and mysths about the latino community. It sounds like you want to do to Latinos like "americans" did to Native Americans in the last century. Native Americans were stripped of their land, language and culture. It sounds like you want the same done Latinos. And unfortunately your example that those who watch soccer and talk spanish become farmworkers is incorrect. I watch soccer, speak spanish, uphold my "latino" culture and I am a doctoral candidate at USC. Once again, I urge many of you to do some reading, research and begin to read history. Remember those who don't know history are bound to repeat it. Stop the personal attacks and begin to dialogue about what really causes migration from one country to another. And by the way, if there is someone out there who can tell me how someone from Mexico can come here legally to work please do so...Learn the immigration laws, and then tell me if our curent law isn't encouraging people to cross the border. We have an outdated quota system. "

Dear Ignorance wrote on Aug 25, 2007 5:40 PM:

" You sound like a fine upstanding self-identified LATINO and you are proud of it. Fine; good for you. Muy Bueno. Well, I am an AMERICAN, and have only two responses to your comments: (1.) Why are you not proud of being an American first, and why do you emphasizing the race card by stating you are a LATINO? Sounds like you are putting race before being an American citizen. (2.) You also state: ' We have an outdated quota system.' Well, you are right in that aspect. We need a ZERO QUOTA system applicable to those countries who let their citizens enter illegally into the U.S. Why do we need to let in more and more and more and more? Come on, the number of lawns here can't be growing that much! "

Racistas!!! wrote on Aug 25, 2007 5:57 PM:

" Ya ponga un alto a estos comentarios, el articulo que salio en este periodoco solo comenta que imigracion estuvo en el condado de kings no que la gente saliera con sus comentarios racistas, por que eso es lo que estan haciendo cuando ponen sus comentarios negativos y racistas.NO PIERDAN MAS SU TIEMPO, IGNOREN A LA GENTE RACISTA!, Ademas ellos nunca van a entender. "

UMMM wrote on Aug 25, 2007 6:44 PM:

" When is the last time anyone here applied for a job?Or your daughter or son?If you apply for a job say.. at Penneys or Walmart,you have a way better chance if you speak Spanish.Illegals maybe in the field and working in the kitchens,but they are also affecting jobs here.People go to school for years and pay money such as medical studentsYet a student who gets a crash course education from some place like JVC will get the job because they speak Spanish.Thing is employers don't care if the employee is knowledgable or not..just that they can bring in the Spansh speaking cash .And we in turn get incompedent people to deal with.And you know what?The majority aren't here to become citizens,they are here to profit and return to the old country.A work Visa is good and both sides would benefit..I wish I had the nerve to steal a license plate with new tags when mine expired.happened to me and I know they did it.Must be neat to hit and run back to Mexico,happened to me twice.I footed the bills for an illegals who hit me.ICE comes in ok ,the bad will run the good will stay,go for it. "

ENGLISH, POR FAVOR wrote on Aug 25, 2007 11:30 PM:

" Cute palabras de espanol, el o ella. All I can say as a proud Anerican is: go back to the counrty of origin and speak your chosen proudly THERE. If you are here. amigo, cuelgelo! "

AR wrote on Aug 25, 2007 11:53 PM:

" to EHR: i will concern myself with the governments illegal deeds when the topic comes up, but this is about illegal immigrants. i am not a conformist and my father is white, but also native american, and my mother is portuguese. so its not about "my white society" and if youve read my previous posts, you would see that i am not saying that its about the mexicans. and again, to everyone who continually brings up the issue that "we" are the illegal immigrants, it was not illegal to come to this country. we came long before there were laws in place, so that line of discussion needs to go out the window. and to "dear ignorance" i agree, we should not identify ourselves by race, but by being american. if people are so desperate to get into america, then please, do it legally. that is the issue here: not conformists, not white people, not any of that. and next time i eat some sweet delicious fruit, i will thank the farmer from whose farm it came from. and fyi not only mexicans work in the field. so who's conforming to stereotypes now? "

laughing out loud wrote on Aug 26, 2007 9:41 AM:

" I am still busting out over the reply in Spanish....What the hell did you just say? Do we have any Greek speakers here? How about Lithuanian? Maybe Hmong? Please, we welcome any responses except English. We all know English is not the most important language of America. I decree that every American should abandon English and master each and everyone's "native" language instead. At this rate, all Mexicans in this country better learn how to speak Thai, Chinese, French, Russian, and Japanese. Why should Spanish speaking people get special treatment? So all you illegal Mexicans and the folks defending them, let's see you utter a complete and intelligible sentence in German. Oh you can't? Why not? See the double standard? All the arguments defending these criminals crumble like cookies when scrutinized. Illegal is illegal. Criminal is criminal. Sugar coat it all you want but the criminals are breaking the law. They are here illegally, and criminals need to be dealt with as set forth by law. "

2 Racistas aka Rude Dude wrote on Aug 26, 2007 4:31 PM:

" This here is what being an American is about.What our people have fought and died for.And why we are a strong country and people.It's called "FREEDOM of SPEECH and FREEDOM of PRESS.We have every right to say what we want here.We understand we have to stand up for what we believe in.Americans don't run from their problems to other country.We have always fought for what is ours,weren't not losers.You come here and impose yourself in our lives and expect us to say nothing.And you don't even have the guts to say it so everyone here understands..You go ahead and not pay attention to whats being said here,your the one who doesn't understand.Your saying it in Spanish for the ones who are paying attention and want to know what's going on. What are you telling them?We can't do anything,nothing is going to happen?Haven't your learned Americans will only take so much??.And when we push hard enough we will get our way.The truth.is, la verdad es:Si aprendes asimilar en la personalidad jurídica americana de la cultura y de la búsqueda serás fino.(If you learn to assimilate in the American Culture and seek legal status you will be fine) thank you Dictionary.Com translator. "

helensfifth wrote on Aug 26, 2007 5:40 PM:

" Well said "two truths respond"! You are the brightest bulb in this bush!! "

The Mexican wrote on Aug 26, 2007 6:38 PM:

" Be cool Adolf. "

G.V. wrote on Aug 26, 2007 8:51 PM:

" WELL WHY DON'T WE LEAVE OUT ALL THIS RACISISM AND WHO CAME FROM WHERE STUFF.BECAUSE WE KNOW ALL OF OUR ANCESTORS CAME HERE ILLEGALLY TOO. "

READ THIS wrote on Aug 26, 2007 8:58 PM:

" HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF ONCE AGAIN, AND YET IGNORANCE PREVAILS! TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE FRUSTRATION, OPINION AFTER OPINION. WHEN A COUNTRY BEGANS TO FALL APART, A SCAPEGOAT IS CREATED, TO KEEP THE PEOPLE'S EYE OFF THE REAL CORRUPTION. THE DEMOCRATS DIDN'T PUSH HARD TO GET THE IMMIGRANTS OUT, BECAUSE THEY KNEW IT WOULD COST THEM THE VOTE FROM THEIR FAMILIES. THE REPUBLICANS DIDN'T GET THEM OUT BECAUSE BIG BUSINESS WANTED TO PAY LESS. WAIT NOW THE PEOPLE ARE FRUSTATED WITH HIGH HEALTHCARE COST, THE CONTRY IS FRUSTRATED, LET'S BLAME THE ILLEGALS, WE SURE IN THE DON'T WANT TO BLAME THE BILLION DOLLAR STOCK HOLDERS OF PHARMICUTICAL COMPANIES. LET THE IGNORANT AND POOR (MIDDLE CLASS) FIGHT IT OUT. WHILE THE CIA DIRECTOR IS TYPING OUT A FALSE REPORT ON WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 911, HE QUIETLY RESIGNS. WHAT? A MAN, WHO KNEW THAT THE FACTS OF THIS REPORT WOULD BE USED TO MAKE A DECISION OF IF AND WHO WE WOULD GO TO WAR WITH, LIED? NO CONSEQUENCES, IT'S OKAY, HAVE THE PEOPLE WATCH PARIS GO TO JAIL, KEEP THEM ENTERTAINED, KEEP THE FINGER PONTING IN ANOTHER DIRECTION. WAKE UP lazy, ignorant,spoiled,self-righteous Americans- Myself included. "

Deep Rooted wrote on Aug 26, 2007 11:22 PM:

" Back in the 70s then Gov Jerry Brown said we didn't need anymore people coming to California,so please don't come here.If it's not too late.....thank you for coming now, all of you who weren't here before 1980 please go back to where you came from..that should solve alot of our problems. "

WHAT IS RACISM? wrote on Aug 27, 2007 1:30 AM:

" Racism:... is produced when you steal your way into a country that is not your country of birth, force that new country to learn and cater to you in your own language and culture just because of its liberal power trip guilt, and demand the respect you think you deserve just because you work at menial jobs. Send most of your money back home and don't even attempt to learn the ways of your new home. Your ‘community' is not part of America, and you aren't proud enough to go through the process of naturalization. Like any ‘guest,' invited or not, you have overstayed your welcome. What are YOU going to do about it? "

Big D's solution wrote on Aug 28, 2007 2:15 PM:

" We should just buy Mexico. Then all of the illegals become citizens and have to pay taxes and all that fun stuff the rest of us have to pay. The farmers would have endless amounts of laborers and we would could clean up Mexico and start some work programs down there. of couse this wouldn't do anything for all of the other south american countries supplying illegal immigrants, so we would have to start looking at other countries too. it does make sense to buy central america, and we should get a pretty good price considering we gave them the canal and all. we can do it like rental buildings. buy one, get it all rented out and then use the equity from that building to buy another one--only we will be buying countries. Of course this could eventually lead to the United States of Earth and wouldn't that be a problem... "

Dear Big D wrote on Aug 28, 2007 2:57 PM:

" Great idea, D, but the bleeding heart left wing liberals will screw that up as well . . . I'm waiting to emigrate to Mars, legally, that is . . . and I will bring MY culture, MY language, and My 'community' there and make all the residents feel sorry for me because I am inferior to them . . . "

Dear Big D wrote on Aug 28, 2007 3:37 PM:

" 1. Start by taking away WALFARE. 2. Make all americans work for a living 3. FYI. I would not complain because the government keeps the tax and social security money that they pay for you to get YOUR CHECK EVERY MONTH. So the next time you see a ILLEGAL take the time to thank him for your check. " "

WALFARE? wrote on Aug 28, 2007 8:35 PM:

" Question: Where do you get 'WALFARE?' Answer: At WALMART.' Don't applause...thank you very much! "

Round em up wrote on Aug 28, 2007 10:45 PM:

" G.S., you are wrong. I have worked as a maid, and I am white, thank you very much. And my "white" grandparents worked in the fields picking fruit when they were young. Yes, we made a choice to better ourselves, and got better jobs, but we weren't above doing difficult work when necessary. Some more food for thought... nobody has mentioned the health risks involved when people are sneaking into this county. Who knows what diseases they bring with them. Our ancestors who came through Ellis Island underwent a rigorous check-up before they were allowed to enter the U.S. Do you think anyone is checking to make sure the illegal immigrants WHO ARE HANDLING YOUR FOOD are free from infectious diseases before they hire them? Think again. Take a look at the rise in tuberculosis and other infectious diseases in the U.S., and tell me it isn't related to the in surge of illegal immigrants. We are importing LOTS and LOTS of poverty folks. California is starting to look more and more like a third world county everyday. I personally am counting down the days until I get out of this state! It's a disgrace. "

Fed Up wrote on Aug 28, 2007 10:56 PM:

" All you have to do is take a look through the Incident Reports right here in the Sentinel. Look at the number of drunk drivers, their nationality and where they were born. It's not racism folks, it's the cold hard facts, right there in black and white. I say if you want to come to this county, come LEGALLY and play by the rules. If not, get out! "

MV wrote on Aug 29, 2007 8:53 AM:

" To EH R you stated that we have to thank the immigrant for the delicious fruit. Whether you know it or not the fruit orchard was here before the immigrant. The only way this immigration problem will ever be solved is going to have to be like when Reagan gave them amnesty. We let them in , it’s not there fault . The farmer keeps on lobbying , because it’s in his favor to allow the illegal immigrants in. We need to patrol the border a little better and start taxing the farmer for every illegal they hire. Remember the farmer is the only one benefiting from the immigrants ,illegal that is. .Yes I know some one reading this is thinking, our food price will go up some . Wow I might have to give up Cable TV, Cell Phone, Computer Internet Service, Dining out , Nice Car, Etc. Easy fix would you rather pay a little more for your food or pay Billions of Dollars in taxes to supplement the medical, housing , etc. that the Illegal immigrants will tax our economy. Do the math America , all pay or just few tax payers. "

EHR wrote on Aug 29, 2007 12:49 PM:

" To AR. no im not a conformist to steroetype... and i didnt mean u were "White" many people side with the majority even though their sometimes wrong, like is the case of send ALL of illegal immigrants to their native land, which is impossible..And i know were not talkin about mexicans, because illegals come from all around the world. The only thing i agree with u is that people who want to immigrate to this country should indeed do it LEGALLY, but why take out all the illegals who have their lives made here already, all im pointing out is that there should be a better border control and immigrate legally, but taking out illegal people from this society is wrong, why not just keep them here? yeah, blah blah blah, immigrants use our public buildings and get money, and get this and that, those are just lame excuses to get them out....go ahead thank the farmers, but who are the farmer going to thank? ...the ILLEGALS who pick the fruit..and remember i said ILLEGALS, not mexican....cause i know theres alot of illegals from many country, not just from mexico. "

Hmm wrote on Aug 29, 2007 6:37 PM:

" I wonder how canada picks it's fruit. "

a simple question wrote on Aug 29, 2007 8:24 PM:

" Why are all you racist white people not up in arms against the farmers, ranchers, and dairymen who provide the majority of the jobs for the immagrants? After all they are living the high life getting rich off the rest of us since they break the law to hire illegals who do not ask for high wages, benifits, insurance, and retirement packages. They are the true law breakers in all this. They get over on all of us by avoiding all the fees and taxes the rest of us business owners have to to pay. The bottom line is they are breaking the law more than someone who simply wants to work. Wouldn't be nice if we could get more of these lazy white people begging for money on every street in hanford to just want to work. To add insult to injury every year these same people want special aid from the government for every reason under the sun. These people have been conditioned to receive welfare just like the lazy people who refuse to work. How about we go after these law breaking welfare seaking people. "

WHAT? wrote on Aug 29, 2007 8:48 PM:

" Boy I am surprised at the literacy rate here . . . 'Keep the illegals' you say . . . "just lame excuses to get them out" you say . . . reward the criminals: NEVER. Punish their employers, punish them by forever denying them citizenship and registering them as guest workers and if they have kids born here that they never are gonna be USA citizens but citizens of their parent's country NOW THAT IS A PLAN TO LIVE WITH! "

Did You Know wrote on Aug 29, 2007 10:51 PM:

" A U.S.-born child cannot in fact sponsor his/her parents for legal immigration to the United States until he/she becomes an adult, and illegal immigrant parents do not gain any additional legal rights based solely on the fact that they have had a child born in the US. In practice, however, the wait times from when the petition is filed until the adult relative is able to enter the U.S. are typically on the order of 15-20 years (as of 2006). This is in addition to 5 or more years that it typically takes for the initial immigrant to obtain the U.S. citizenship).A review of the Senate debate before the 14th Amendment’s ratification makes clear that the Citizenship Clause’s proponents were careful to preclude any automatic grant of citizenship based only on birth within the territory of the United States.As the 14th Amendment itself explicitly states: “The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.” "

Jenn.. wrote on Aug 30, 2007 10:28 AM:

" I Never Had A issue with People Coming Over Here From another Country. As long as they were doing it the right way .I myself am from another Country.(not mexico)But im here leagl so is my family.Like i was saying i Never had A issue Untill July 12th 06 That was the i was hit By a drunk driver .Who in the first place was drunk,no licensce,no insurance And was a illegal immigrant who spoke no english No only did this person put me in the hospital but i will now have seisurz and back problems for the rest of my life .am only 19 i was thrown out of the car. and the man that hit me got out of his car grabbed his 30 box and tried running away. but thankfully there we other people there to help me. so in the end of it i was left with bills and in pain for the rest of my life and this man served hardly anytime in jail. moral of my story is if your goin to come to this country come here the right way and if you here and you shouldnt GO HOME! "

AR wrote on Aug 30, 2007 4:58 PM:

" send them back. show them the consequences to their actions. period end of story. they broke the law, they need to pay. as do the employers that knowingly hire illegals. this is not a race issue, but an issue of the strain they are putting on our economy and crime rate statistics. everyone needs to a) come here legally or b) stay out of here! "

The one wrote on Aug 30, 2007 7:38 PM:

" All ICE has to do is investigate Kings County Housing Authority. I know of 7 neighbor's of mine that willingly admit they are illegals but are legally on section 8. Nice huh? "

NM resident wrote on Aug 30, 2007 7:41 PM:

" I noticed some of you were talking about how illegals do most of the work no other people want to do. Well, my mom who is portugese was born and raised in San Jose CA, picked fruit each summer for me and my brothers new school clothes. My brother picked cotton during the summer for extra cash in his pocket and my dad who is just a good ol white boy, harvested cotton, alfalfa, wheat etc so he could put food on our table. I was born in Hanford and now live in New Mexico where we have the same thing going on in El Paso Texas. Mexicans are taking jobs that we as Americans could be doing. I am an American. My family worked hard in the same fields the mexicans worked. The mexicans are not the only ones who will do hard labor type jobs. Give us Americans a break and give the jobs that the mexicans have to us and get us off of welfare. The mexicans can better themselves but do it properly and legally. Remember they were not born and raised here. Thats my story and Im sticking to it.... "

KnowsAll wrote on Aug 30, 2007 7:46 PM:

" Being Native (not from Ca.) I know what what happened to my ancestors and it was not right what the White Government did to my people, but today, we are talking about Illegals coming to this country. I follow the laws made by this government and so should others, which include People's from other countries. You want to stay here, follow the rules and laws. If you enjoy making the money here, spend some money here. Wave the American Flag in appreciation for the country who is helping you out. Mexico does not give a ___t about you! Why act like you are for a country that you DON'T want to live or work in? Viva La.....America! "

To The Mexican wrote on Aug 31, 2007 7:57 AM:

" I am Jewish American and i really think you need to learn a little about history. Hitler murdered millions of familys of all races and backgrounds that where not doing a thing that was illegal. My family had to come to the United States for saftey and a new life LEGALLY, so get your facts straite. And dont you dare compare ILLEGALS with the HOLOCAUST. Have some respect for the dead and the living, dont try to act like a you were forced here you came here on your own ILLEGAL will, and chose to do it the wrong way. From, sick of the poor little illegal "

Proud American wrote on Aug 31, 2007 12:24 PM:

" Guess what, if I have to go out to the fields and pick fruit, in order to get the quality of life I once enjoyed back... SIGN ME UP! Someone made the comment that we would starve if we started deporting illegals. That's just stupid. The arrogance floors me. Remember last year when all the illegal immigrants went on strike, demanding rights for a country they HAVE NO LEGAL RIGHT TO BE IN? What a JOKE. It had little to no impact, and life went on as always. I agree that we need to be going after the employers. They are enjoying the benefit of cheap labor while the rest of us foot the bill in the way taxes. "

R. Walker wrote on Aug 31, 2007 12:28 PM:

" I say, ICE crack that whip! "

Go to Longs wrote on Aug 31, 2007 7:46 PM:

" Wow I went into Longs Drugs today to get a prescription for my ailing father, and I thought I was in a Spanish speaking country. They did two ads over the PA, and not one was in English. Did I mention this was the Longs drugs in the USA. Then I went to the Pharmacy, and the signs were in Spanish. Now how is an American of Hispanic descent who grew up speaking the official language of California supposed to know where to line up if the signs are in Spanish. ICE, go to Longs and start deporting away. Hey Longs, this is America, and English is the official state language since 1986. Also, I noticed that you did not charge me in Pesos for my $140 prescription. "

Try the ER wrote on Sep 2, 2007 10:22 PM:

" I took my four year-old to the emergency room tonight and waited five hours to be seen and that was just to get into the exam room. Then I had to suffer through some illegal screaming at the top of her lungs that the hospital was letting her kid die. Her kid with a smile on his face who is right next door to my dehydrated lethargic son who can barely hold his eyes open. The emergency room is way understaffed because the illegals don't even pay their bills and here I am with extremely expensive medical insurance, willing and able to pay my bill if someone will just help my kid. Pick up the pace I.C.E.!!!!! "

straight4ward wrote on Sep 4, 2007 4:08 PM:

" Hi everyone Do you remember when Black people African Americans were slaves.that was always talked about and once they were freed no more field work for them and White americans well they can't go out on a hot sunny day in the fields with out roasting.they rather ask for handout be homeless.instead of field work. Hispanics aren't afraid of any work we do it all.Mexican gov. can't control population let alone jobs for the people they need to feed there family's they need money for food, I would surely risk my life to cross illegally to survive then to give up if i die i would have tried to do something, Everyone wants a better world money, food,freedom, and happiness working in the fields isn't the best life but honest work that makes you think would you survive your blessed we aren't and we need your help not to make life harder for us but to help us feed our familys take care of our people we have no ss gov takes that we get no welfare, we can't ,we can't get paid vacation working in the fields our vacation is working in the fields so think twice "

TO straight4ward wrote on Sep 4, 2007 7:24 PM:

" What the HECK are you talking about? Someone been out in the hot fields too long? "

TO straight4ward wrote on Sep 4, 2007 8:57 PM:

" What in the name of Hari Krishna are you TALKING about??? You said: 'Do you remember when Black people African Americans were slaves..." NO I DON'T...THAT WAS OVER 140 YEARS AGO! "

Another Mexican-American wrote on Sep 4, 2007 11:56 PM:

" This issue sure gets emotions flaring! This is one of those issues where both sides can argue till they're blue in the face and it won't matter one bit. we all have our opinions, but do they really matter? As we have learned from IRAQ, GWB, and the legislature will do whatever they (or the lobbyists), want to do. "

Alan G. wrote on Sep 5, 2007 11:46 AM:

" I agree with "Another Mexican-American" that people will argue until they are blue in the face about this issue. This isn't exclusive to our continent as most people are aware and is a hot bed issue in Europe and many other parts of the world. With the globalization of the world marketplace, you find residents of poorer nations trying to immigrate to wealthier nations to support their families. The problem is that economies are fragile and if immigration, especially illegal immigration, is unregulated and unenforced you can collapse economies. The Mexican president is fighting for the rights of illegal immigrants in the U.S. because he knows that money sent back into Mexico is second to their oil industry. There was a time in this country when a household could survive and even thrive on a single income. Products used to made in America and sold to Americans, now our Levi's and Nike's are manufactured in places like China and Nicaragua and our baseballs are made in Haiti. Is it the responsibility of wealthier nations to support poorer nations? No! It is the responsibility of the residents to protest conditions in their own countries. "

TO Alan G. wrote on Sep 5, 2007 10:32 PM:

" Alan: when you said "I agree with "Another Mexican-American" I could have predicted that from you! Then you surprised me. You get a little, do I dare say the word... C-O-N-S-E-R-V-A-T-I-V-E? So....whats your point anyway, in a nutshell? "

TO straight4ward wrote on Sep 5, 2007 10:58 PM:

" 1)The sun has obviously baked your brain. 2) Please use some punctuation because none of us understand what you are talking about. 3) Also, none of us "remember when African-Americans were slaves", because slavery was thankfully abolished in 1808, and it is highly unlikely that anyone reading this was alive in 1808! At this point, I would settle for a aimple I.Q. test at the border. "

Not Going to Longs Drugs wrote on Sep 5, 2007 11:18 PM:

" I don't go to Longs Drugs anymore.Last time I was there,they passed me over in favor of a Spanish speaking woman,so I just put my things down and left quietly.I have never been in the new Walmart either.When their customers are picked up or ICE comes in and chases them somewhere else,you still won't get my business...you made your choice.I would take my 140.00 RX to RiteAid or Walgreens.There are plenty of places to shop around here,that's our choice.And why are the letters so small in this box,it's hard to recheck my spelling ect.Have mercy on old eyes please. "

Alan G. wrote on Sep 6, 2007 12:00 PM:

" Had to edit that a bit. 200 words just aren't enough. It's such a complicated issue and I'm not completely unsympathetic with the plight of people searching for a better life. I think the point I was trying to get to was that in my opinion our economy just can't handle so many unskilled workers who are living off-the-grid and not contributing as much in taxes as they use in social services. If so many people flee their countries for strictly economical reasons, who is left to fight for future generations? On this issue, yes I am conservative. I think it's okay to be conservative on some issues and liberal on others, otherwise you're just towing the party line which requires absolutely no abstract thought. "

Fed Up wrote on Sep 6, 2007 1:03 PM:

" to "not going to Longs Drugs" - congrats to you, I wish more people were like that. Any time I'm in a store and hear an announcement in Spanish, that's the end for me. I don't shop at Home Depot anymore for the same reason so for those who care; please boycot this store also. If my language isn't good enough to use in your store, then my money certainly isn't welcomed there either. California has made it much to confortable for the Hispanic population to just continue as is. But again why shouldn't they, no one gets in trouble for breaking the law, they get all the benefits the State has to offer and everyone bends over backwards to make them feel right at home. "

TO ALAN G. wrote on Sep 6, 2007 8:20 PM:

" Thanks for clearing things up, Alan. If you are espousing liberal ideas at times and then have some conservative ideas, doesn’t that make you an independent? I choose to be an independent because both political extremes are not what I espouse...I am an independent thinker who supports America and its traditions 100%. This is the country that I love and would die for. My flag, my language (English). I do NOT want the United States to develop into a third world country. That is NOT our proud tradition; third world countries are bereft with a low standard of living, corruption, and scandals that keep their population in constant poverty and despair. Nor do I believe that we must be the salvation of every third world nation...isn't that the job of the United Nations? I do not want to sacrifice this America - my America, that has become so great. I don’t believe we should be bullied into becoming the world’s melting pot of people looking for a free handout while insisting on keeping their own language and traditions above the American way of life. True immigrants never rejected English and were damn proud to adopt the American way of "

Alan G. wrote on Sep 7, 2007 11:19 AM:

" To "TO ALAN G", yes, I'm an independent with no political party affiliation. I'm equally repulsed by the far left and far right. I vote the issues and individual candidates. What disgusts me about the Democrats and Republicans in regards to this issue is that they are both courting the illegal immigrants because they only see future voters for their respective parties. Good for their parties, BAD for America. "

TO Alan G. again wrote on Sep 7, 2007 6:12 PM:

" OK, respect that you are an independent. But look at these positions for a moment: the liberals say 'let anyone and everyone in, illegal or legal, give them citizenship with benefits immediately' while the conservatives say 'keep out illegals and terrorists, admit those who go through the legal immigration screening process.' Which now makes more sense and better preserves the Republic for our children? Sometimes you do have to take sides... "

EHR wrote on Sep 7, 2007 9:05 PM:

" well some people should just see reality, spanish is becoming more common, because theres MORE immigrants...sooner or later english speaking people will need to learn spanish!!!hehehe... "

Alan G. wrote on Sep 7, 2007 10:14 PM:

" In my opinion, the conservatives (minus the president and his failed amnesty) are right. Some conservatives are more right than others. Secure the borders first and foremost, then start to really address the problem. Don't just pass resolutions to build a fence and add more border patrol guards unless you have the intention to actually fund it. Otherwise, all I hear is Charlie Brown's teacher talking "WONK WONK WONK WONK." "

STOP HIS-PANDERING!! wrote on Sep 7, 2007 11:17 PM:

" Well, a trip to Walgreens tonight got my tempers flaring again. Used to be able to get in and out of the pharmacy quickly. Those days are over. No one waiting in line speaks English, but of course they have their Medi-Cal cards ready in hand. Then on my way out of the store, I noticed a display featuring a variety of apparel displaying the Mexican flag! Has anyone else seen this? I'm sorry, did I miss something? THIS IS AMERICA. I can't for the life of me, understand why people leave a third world county like Mexico behind, come to the Land of Opportunity and what I consider to be a great country, only to darn the regila of the broken country they just left??? Isn't this invasion, and that's what it is, a covert form of terrorism? Don't you think if the Iraqis showed up in masses waving the flag of their home country we would put a stop to it? I remember seeing video from last year, of illegal protesters waving Mexican flags and burning the American flag. If that isn't a hostile act, what is? "

To EHR wrote on Sep 8, 2007 8:42 AM:

" You think it's funny another nation is taking over our country?So you don't mind the way our lives have changed because of Sept 11 and the terrorists.You don't mind that we import more from other countries then export,closing down businesses and jobs for us.You wouldn't mind if another country attacked us and took over huh?You would just be sitting watching Telemundo saying it's not your country.A true American stands up for everything that this Nation was built on and what makes it up.Including the language our Constitution was written in. These Illegals are tearing it down and us apart.Every other word these people speak is a cuss word,that's your Spanish?Haven't you read the letters in the forum? OUR People are being affected badly by the Illegals being here.NAFTA was drafted to help them have jobs in Mexico.Companies took our jobs over there.And they still come here.If anyone comes here to be an honest citizen or just to work then fine.But too many are riding on others backs.No other Nationality is causing so many problems for us then those South of the border.Note: all of South America is on the otherside of that border not just Mexico. "

bOB wrote on Sep 8, 2007 3:48 PM:

" Wow, I think I have heard (we do the jobs others will not do) at least 1000 times or more..I think you miss the point our schools our medical system our jails and welfare systems. WE can no longer afford to pay for all of these.. The problem is not what race you belong to..Its are you here Legal or Illegal..A lot of this was created by the politecal parties (ALL OF THEM) How many illegals are also working in City, County and State Gov. jobs?? You also might want to take a look at your daily Kings County Jail Reports on the Web every day..And check out your local School Systems...If you are invited into our homes you are welcome if you have broken into our homes you better leave .. "

EHR Part 1 wrote on Sep 8, 2007 4:10 PM:

" Wow! Some people get to their final conclusions so fast…first of all No , its not one nation its many nations around the world, and no nations are taking over, their people come here to have better lives, that doesn’t mean taking over! Yeah everyone’s life changed after Sept. 11, but was it a nation, No, it was a group of extremists. I would mind because I live here, and it also depends of the situation, does the U.S. deserve it? Or not? If the foreign policies of the nation continues without change, some nations will indeed try to do harm. Second of all I DON’T watch Telemundo, and I’m not American, I was born in Mexico and brought over here when I was less than a 1 year old, are you a true American? If u were wouldn’t you be over there in Iraq “defending” this nation you call home…because that’s how many Americans feel better, fighting in a war, IN a war that is wrong….No that’s not my Spanish, that’s just bad apples, I can tell you are a stereotype, I do cuss when its necessary, but I’m also educated like many Americans. People say illegals immigrants.. "

EHR Part 2 wrote on Sep 8, 2007 4:11 PM:

" are hurting the U.S. …but still see no PROOF…. Still waiting….Probably the majority of illegal immigrants come here for jobs and are most likely to be good citizens (neighbors). "

Sandy wrote on Sep 8, 2007 9:32 PM:

" YOU PEOPLE TREAT THE ILLEGALS LIKE IF WE WERE THE ONE'S WHO DID ALL THOSE BAD THINGS ON SEPT. 11 AND ALSO WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT COLLEGE WHERE THAT CHINESSE GUY KILLED ALL THOSE STUDENTS. AND ALSO O.J SIMPSON AND I COULD GO ON / BUT NOT ONCE HAVE WE DONE ANYTHING BUT CROSS THE BORDER ILLEGALY TO WORK TO SUPPORT OUR AFMILIES AND THAT IS NOT A CRIME .THATS THE PEOPLE YOU SHOULD WATCH OUT FOR!!!!HOW COME NO-ONE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THEM???I DON'T SEE THERE RACE GETTING DEPORTED. SO NEXT YOU THINK ABOUT CALLING US CRIMINALS THINK ABOUT IT TWICE. MEXICAN BY LUCK PROUD BY CHOICE. "

listen closely... wrote on Sep 9, 2007 1:40 PM:

" the more people that come to our country the better. Get a job, pay taxes, learn the language,pay for medical benifits and if you dont like whats going on, get out. "

FINALE? wrote on Sep 9, 2007 2:18 PM:

" Well, 'all caps' person, score one for illiteracy. Yep, illiteracy made our country great! "

SANDY wrote on Sep 9, 2007 3:31 PM:

" YES, WE DO ALL HAVE JOBS IN THE FIELDS AND ALL THOSE HARD JOBS. AND NO MATTER WHAT EVERYONE PAYS TAXES. IN THIS WORLD NOTHING IS FREE YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT. ALL THE ILLEGALS WORKING PAY SOCIAL SECURITY AND FED./ STATE AND WHERE DOES ALL THAT MONEY GO BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET A CENT BACK. BUT YET WE HAVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE RECIEVING SOCIAL SECURITY FROM THERE MONEY THAT THEY WILL NEVER GET AND THEY DON'T COMPLAIN. SO NO ONE IS PERFECT. "

ENGISH please wrote on Sep 9, 2007 8:32 PM:

" I'm an American who happens to be hispanic. I feel that ANYONE who comes to America and wants to live here. Should learn the language and accept the ways of an AMERICAN. They can live and speak their native tongue all they want at home or to each other where ever they want to. But if they go to an appt, to the store, or any other place public and need assistance, they need to be able to speak english. The language of the country. I see lots of other nationalities in my line of business and I have never had any other race expect me to speak their native language or they wouldn't accept my helping them. Every other race comes in with someone who can speak english if they can not. But not a person from Mexico. If I wanted to live in Germany. I would be expected to learn to speak german. And that is the way it should be. You guys want to come here and live. Great. Do it legally and learn the ways of the country. Your not special. "

SANDY wrote on Sep 10, 2007 9:13 PM:

" I UNDERSTAND THAT WE SHOULD ALL SPEAK ENGLISH, BUT IT'S A FREE COUNTRY. WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOMETHING NEGATIVE SAID ABOUT THE ILLEGALS-MEXICANS ,THERES NEVER SOMETHING POSITIVE TO SAY ABOUT THEM. I'M PRETTY SURE THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO EVERYTHING LEGALLY BUT NO ONE GIVES THEM A CHANCE / SO THATS IS WHY THEY HAVE TO BE HERE AS ILLEGALS. MEXICANS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT NEVER HAVE A CHANCE OF ANYTHING. AND WE COULD THANK ALL THOSE SELFISH PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE RACEIST. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WANT TO TAKE OVER THE US. BUT WHATS FUNNY IS THAT THE MORE THEY TRY TO TAKE US OUT THE MORE WAYS WILL FIND TO COME BACK /WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP UNTIL WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BE IN THE US LEGALLY.PLEASE SUPPORT OUR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!!!!!!!!!!! "

EHR wrote on Sep 10, 2007 9:18 PM:

" ENGLISH Please??!?!? ok, you say ur hispanic, so probably some hispanics will talk to you in spanish, because their more comfortable talkin spanish, but they also know english...If you look hispanic, they would rather talk to you in spanish, but if you dont know spanish, its UR bad also, because this country is becoming more diverse and more languages will mix in with english, so you also need to learn other languages to become someone better! right? "

Devil's Advocate wrote on Sep 11, 2007 11:40 AM:

" Immigration status aside for a second: Anybody else think we need to get over this whole you-need-to-speak-english-only thing? I just visited New York City and counted more than a dozen different languages being spoken - it was actually kinda cool, and nobody seemed offended. Funny thing was, it was actually easier to understand some of the English as a Second Language cabbies than the tour guides from Brooklyn that supposed only knew english! It was kinda funny. "

TO DEVIL's ADVOCATE wrote on Sep 11, 2007 2:37 PM:

" Were you in New York as part of the professional development program for teachers? Remember, N.Y. is a SANCTUARY CITY, where anything non-American is very welcome and tolerated! And how about those METS? "

Proud American wrote on Sep 11, 2007 2:56 PM:

" What happened to freedom of speech? "

At least learn english wrote on Sep 11, 2007 6:27 PM:

" Not every race that lives here in America can speak the language of their race. It would be nice if we all could speak every language that we come across, but not everyone can do it. I don't expect every person that is hispanic to speak spanish. Do you think that everyone who looks portuguese speaks the tongue of the azores. Yes, time is changing. But do people have to be treated rudely because they don't speak spanish? I don't treat them impolite if the can't speak english. Just harder to get the point across. On any race. My grandfather told his children not to teach his grandkids spanish because we needed to speak the language of the country. Those were the old days. Broken english is good english. They are trying. I speak broken spanish. But don't get upset because I can understand your spanish. "

FREEDOM OF SPEECH wrote on Sep 11, 2007 7:52 PM:

" ...is EXACTLY what we are doing right here, right now. No one but YOU is implying anything else! "

The Oracle says.. wrote on Sep 11, 2007 8:20 PM:

" EHR, if I understand you correctly, your saying that I should learn to speak Spanish (or another language) to be a "complete" person. Typical liberal, secular position. "I" am somehow a lesser person if I refuse to pay for all the welfare, medical and schooling, criminal justice system costs that illegal immigration is costing. The next word you will use is "racist" as that is always the fallback position when confronted with facts. I dont want to speak Spanish or Chinese, etc..I want MY country to have its own identity. If I moved to Germany, would I expect their country to assimilate to me, or vice versa?? The problem is spelled out by another post above...."were going to keep coming, because were ENTITLED? One day this will all change my friend, because it will have to for the US to survive. "

straight4ward wrote on Sep 11, 2007 10:45 PM:

" in reply to lame arguement for your information yes wellfare was made for lazy white people as well as naturlized mexicans, asians and so many more it's a fact and that too is a fact that us mexicans have worked the fields once in a while before going to college or doing something else because we had a chance to learn the english langauage and not only that we were able to advance and manage to get ahead while the cycle of welfare still exsist and yet you might be still on that program and complaining about it too many don't realize that many people have had heat stroke and died while trying to make a living in that 100' degree temp. Many have suffered rude remarks and yet we still manage to work and make an honest living we are mexicans who wouldn't sit back and be lazy. we have to feed our children and those who need clothing on there backs just like your kids or family too so don't go hating please treat others as you want them treating you can't you see the big picture no need for rude comments. "

straight4ward wrote on Sep 12, 2007 12:00 AM:

" To All and All people of all nationalities. Please don't support any so called Ice homeland security. What for that is the Question? Did you know that no matter how much is paid into the Immigration security it won't stop us no matter what unless we are dead that is the only way you will stop us from crossing any boarder from any where so who is loosing out US Citizens who pay for these services If one Door of entry is Closed another one opens and if you think Mexicans are corrupt then what does it say for those who are greedy want more you get less want something good treat us well and we will surely do you good. like they say do unto others as you would like them to do unto you. yes I am Mexican and I am US Citizen so yes I am aware of both worlds as for some they are one sided enemies of the states. Day in and Day out we are here struggling like always many people wanting to get Rich and yet illegals are here to work feed there families just to survive . "

Alan G. wrote on Sep 12, 2007 10:27 AM:

" Hey "Straight4ward" you mentioned the golden rule when you said "like they say do unto others as you would like them to do unto you." So here's the deal, I promise not to enter another country illegally, breaking their laws in the process, and I expect the same in return. And to the good, honest, decent immigrants who have chosen to follow the rules and become citizens the LEGAL way, WELCOME!!! "

EHR wrote on Sep 12, 2007 10:59 AM:

" To Oracle Says - Did I mention a “complete” person? NO! I said that you can become “better” when you can communicate with different languages, and nowadays employers are looking for people who are bilingual. And have a better chance getting a job, rather than someone who only knows one language. I’m not saying people who only know one language are “lesser” than other who know more than one language. In some cases, racism is the main point, some Americans are racism, and that’s the reality, but other Americans want to control immigration flow in this country, and I also agree with people who agree control of the borders should be tighten but against throwing out all the illegals from this country. Does language really identify a country? English was the main language and still is, but as I said this country is a melting-pot and different languages are spoken. Yeah I agree immigrants should learn English, and many try to learn, but they can also talk Spanish or their native language if they wish so, Its freedom of speech , right? .Your comparing Germany to U.S?, Germany is a nice country, but is it that diverse as this country? "

MODERATOR wrote on Sep 12, 2007 2:42 PM:

" This thread is deteriorating into racial attacks. Please keep the discussion on topic, or this thread will be closed. "

At least learn english wrote on Sep 12, 2007 6:02 PM:

" Alan G. Where is the quote from Ted Nugent? I love that guy. "

BACK ON TOPIC wrote on Sep 12, 2007 7:20 PM:

" The article is titled: "Illegal immigrant crackdown brewing in Kings?" To address specifically the topic as directed by the Moderator, I will say that it is about time. Anything that is not legal under U.S. law needs to be enforced 100%. Is this 'on topic' enough? "

thrilled wrote on Sep 15, 2007 12:21 AM:

" I am thrilled that immigration has finally come to crack down on some of this. It is ridiculous how many illegals are here sucking up free medical care for themselves and their families. And our children suffer in our schools because we are so busy paying taxes for all these children who do not even belong here or speak the language. The INS should make it mandatory that you speak the native language of the US ENGLISH, before you are even able to apply to come here. We were all once foreigners from somewhere unless you are indian, and all did it correctly, legally, and made the effort to acclimate to the culture. It is appalling that the illegals and their families continue to be rewarded for breaking our laws while those of us who work our butts off pay for them. I say send them all back home, and anyone who is left here legally getting free medical, WIC, welfare, and continued handouts, put them to work doing these jobs. There, problem solved. What took so long. I hope it is a massive sting and is extremely successful. "

Z.W. wrote on Sep 15, 2007 5:59 AM:

" I don't personally care who's picking the fruit I eat or clearing my table when I'm done. I'm a white american, from Northern Michigan and I can tell you I was the one picking fruit, pruning trees and shoveling horse crap there. But because their isn't as much of an illegal downpour , employers are forced to pay a decent salary. The fact of the matter is illegal immigration causes a ton of economic problems. It's unacceptable for an employer to be paying an individual a quarter of what that job is worth and when an illegal immigrant fills that job they're making their boss, richer, faster! Which is fine if that's what they want for themselves, but it defeats the purpose of the "American Dream". Accepting that as okay, you have no chance to prosper, move up, or move on! You'll always be making someone else rich, always be picking fruit, always have to live with other families and always be making the same crappy salary. Illegals come to this country to escape an impoverised hell. By accepting such low paying jobs, it just brings all those economic problems here. I say Start holding the employers accountable! "

BACK ON TOPIC wrote on Sep 15, 2007 8:44 PM:

" Thank you, 'thrilled,' for your comment and support. You are a true patriot who respects the laws of America. "

from far away wrote on Sep 15, 2007 11:11 PM:

" to thrilled.... i can't help but sigh at the solution you give.... and not just you but others. you first state " INS should make it mandatory that you speak the native language of US English." what is that?????? first, there is NO INS!!! second, are they, the language patrol???? then you say that at one time we were all once foreigners, unless we were a Native American. Did they speak "the native US English???" how can you even say that in the same breath??? oh, i see, because they DIDN"T speak the native US English, we stole their lands, hunted them down like animals (savages) etc. then you (and others) want to round them up and "send them home." do you have any idea what that would be like?? do you have any idea as to the money that would cost?? SIGH......... and David Y .......learn to spell or thrilled will be running you out of town to Mexico...... "

TO: From Far Away wrote on Sep 16, 2007 4:50 PM:

" What in the name of the Jolly Green Giant are you saying? Try as I might, I cannot make heads or tails of your rant. But one thing I do know: you said, and I quote: "...learn to spell or thrilled will be running you out of town to Mexico." ‘thrilled' never once mentioned SPANISH, LATINO, OR MEXICO! Who is the predjudiced one now? Does the shoe fit? "

to Z.W. wrote on Sep 16, 2007 6:53 PM:

" the reason there wasn't a problem when you (and i) were growing up was because back then we were fair to our workers. but remember that WE live in a capitalist system and the thing that WE (yes all of us) want is to many more and more MONEY. from the garment manufacturers, to the TOY industry, they all went to Mexico, then Guatemala and now they are in china. that is why undocumented workers pick our fruit and cut our grass. we did it and now there's nothing we can do about it. its like when the south brought in all those slaves from Africa. now WE can only make these people citizens so they can work and pay taxes and serve in the service. ask Ronnie and Bush. they thought and think its the best solution. you know and i know that WE will never go out to the fields and NEITHER will our children even if they got paid 15 bucks an hour. "

The Oracle says.... wrote on Sep 16, 2007 8:28 PM:

" Don't you just love people who tell others to learn how to spell, all the while their posts are riddled with grammatical errors? Anyway, both political parties have sold us out, eyeing the mexican vote. We can rant all we want here, but in the end you and I are going to pay and pay and pay, until we decide not to pay anymore. Then we have to decide how we are going to do that...Mow yards? Fruit stands? Definetly some cash business, so that we can earn a living, yet keep the money from going to the illegals. Maybe o' Scott has it right....Move to Switzerland. Course I'm thinking more along the lines of Idaho or Montana.....or maybe even Costa Rica "

To "KnowsAll" wrote on Sep 16, 2007 9:57 PM:

" WHAT! Viva La America! Lol "

ALEJANDRO wrote on Sep 17, 2007 1:31 AM:

" Costa Rica is a heck of a lot warmer than Montana or Idaho! Speaking Spanish is a definite plus there! Adios, amigos! America por tu. "

Scott Tucker wrote on Sep 17, 2007 2:51 AM:

" Hello Oracle, Just because I am living in Switzerland does not exempt me from paying US taxes. No matter where a US citizen decides to live (even on the moon), he or she still has to file a federal income tax return annually and, in your words, "pay and pay and pay" Uncle Sam. (I also have to pay Swiss taxes as well.) "

Red wrote on Sep 17, 2007 12:50 PM:

" Wow some of you are not opening your eyes. First off how did the country work back in the 50's and 60's. You say without the illeagals there would be no one to cook and clean and all that other stuff. You obviously dont know any thing about American history or even seen an old American movie. White people were picking up the trash and cute little white girls skating out to the side of 56 Bel Air with a burger and shake in her hand. Not illeagals. None of this can compare to Hitler or the Holocost so drop that. Yea its annoying that there is spanish every where in the states. Actualy pretty much just the west coast. I never see it in the state I am living in for the time being but I am from Hanford. I am on the Army but that makes no difference. One thing every one needs to read here is this. The law is the law. If an American goes to Spain, Germany, China or even Mexico. They will most likely be deported. Why is it so bad that they get deported from the US. "

Red wrote on Sep 17, 2007 12:57 PM:

" Is it because they have had a family while they are here and now its not moral to send them back to the contry they came from, and make the children deside to stay here or go back with the parents. What is so hard about seeing the laws and abiding by them. If people were not so money hungry and self centered then there would not be this problem. Yea thats too the farmers and small - er businesses of the west coast. They didnt follow the rules and didnt foresee that all the illeagal people they hired to make them selves more money would cause this problem. Its thier fault. Whats so hard about making a living by working hard. I know what it is like to sweat for a pay check, Im sweating all the time out here in Iraq. "

ALEJANDRO wrote on Sep 17, 2007 3:03 PM:

" Dear RED,...You are in the Army and in IRAQ?...I did not know that. RESPECT, man. Sorry I did not know sooner. There are more people here that support you than you will ever know. Keep safe! "

Duh wrote on Sep 17, 2007 6:37 PM:

" ICE - Homeland Security Vans are ALWAYS in Kings County... They travel to and from the prisons in the Tri-County area almost on a daily basis. They bring prisoners to and from Fedral Court and ICE hearings all the time. What we need to do is pull troops out of Iraq and put them on the Mexican AND the Canadian Borders to stop most of the illegal immigration. THen we need to insist our legislators crack down on give away programs. "

from far away wrote on Sep 17, 2007 10:13 PM:

" to jolly green giant its nice to see that you are sticking up for your own kind. when thrilled mentions CHILDREN who don't belong HERE or SPEAK the language, who do you think it is talking about??? the CHILDREN that live behind Hanford West?? give me a break. take an English class and learn about semantics and rhetoric (Red its "in" the Army not "on", preposition use of place), so that you will be able to read between the lines and when it talks about illegal families being rewarded for breaking the law and that it hopes for a massive sting operation (successful) do you honestly think it's referring to the Portuguese....?????? and it's not a rant, it's called paraphrasing...... "

Asian Guy wrote on Sep 17, 2007 11:38 PM:

" I will start off by mentioning that i am an immigrant from the Philippines, a legal immigrant. I did not come here through the military or on any boat. When i got here I did some crappy jobs, but like most Asian immigrants, i came to America to do better. I did not waste my time in coming here to pick fruit, clean tables, or clean for anyone. When i Got here I tried to become part of American society offering to leave some of my culture at home, which i am a proud Filipino American, but I am American first. I have a question for EHR, are you a legal American Citizen? I am not defending any Illegal Mexican Immigrant yes I said Mexican Immigrant because statistically the majority of illegal immigrants who come here come from Mexico or south of the border. Why is it that Asians come here and learn English and go to school and test better than most citizens in this country? It is because we want better, and America offers that. Why can't latinos as a whole do that, instead of being listed numerous time in the booking section of the sentinel. "

TO ASIAN MAN wrote on Sep 18, 2007 2:29 PM:

" YOU MAY BE SMART IN THE BOOKS BUT IN LIFE YOU ARE STUPID. IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK IN THE BOOKINGS IT IS NOT THE HISPANIC THAT IS THE MAJORITY. HEY AT LEAST YOU WERE NOT A LOST CAUSE SINCE YOU SAY YOU ARE BOOK SMART. BEING SMARTER THAN SOME ONE ELSE DOES NOT MAKE YOU A BETTER PERSON. WE AND I DO MEAN WE (HISPANICS) DO LEARN ENGLISH JUST SO WE CAN GET PAID MORE FOR BEING BILINGUAL :) HAVE YOU HEARD SOME OF YOUR CULTURAL TRYING TO SPEAK ENGLISH? YEAH TRY HARDER. PEOPLE CAN SIT THERE AND POINT THE BAD IN HISPANICS BUT TAKE A POLL ON ALL MAJOR CRIMES WHAT RACES ACTUALLY COME OUT AHEAD. YOU DO NOT SEE US KILLING STUDENTS AT OUR SCHOOLS. HOW MANY SERIAL KILLERS ARE HISPANCS? STOP FOCUSING ON THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND FOCUS ON THE REAL ISSUES. "

It's unfair wrote on Sep 18, 2007 5:15 PM:

" People are just trying to make a living by taking the hardest jobs that no white man will take like working in the fields. They work in the worst weather conditions and they get paid the minimum wage. This country is very rich in agriculture thanks to the people that take on this hard jobs. Sometimes farmers are desperate to get workers to work on their fields. It's true that there is bad people just like on any other race. This country was founded by immigrants and that will never change! People complaint about listening to spanish I wonder why many Americans go study abroad to learn the language. "

LA wrote on Sep 18, 2007 5:20 PM:

" Some people say that being "illegal" is a crime then that means that America was founded by criminals. "

THE DUTCHMAN wrote on Sep 18, 2007 7:48 PM:

" Thought I'd chime in here...my relatives were part of New Amsterdam way back when. We did't speak English then either, and we bought and paid for Manhattan Island as I recall...WHAT A DEAL! "

TRUTH IN JOURNALISM wrote on Sep 18, 2007 10:27 PM:

" From reading these blogs, it is apparent that very, very few here can read, write, or understand the English language! "

TO ASIAN MAN wrote on Sep 18, 2007 4:29 PM: wrote on Sep 19, 2007 11:22 AM:

" Who is the majority in the booking section of The Hanford Sentinel? Some asians may not speak the english language that great, but at least they try. What would be the point in coming to this country if you try to do better then the conditions were in your home country? If you want to talk about the english language, why do you write in all caps? "

I Have to say wrote on Sep 19, 2007 2:06 PM:

" If you use caps that's considered shouting in internet etiquette.Is it fair to assume that you shout in public? Journalist,these are everyday people not writers.Many of us have been out of school for years and not had to use everything we learned in English classes in our daily lives.So excuse us.Being a Chicana( American of Mexican descent), born and living here in California, through many generations,we picked the fruit.There were no foodstamps or welfare then.All of that came when the illegals came.The families,black.white,yellow and brown were roped ,off while trucks of illegals were brought in.Then, came the foodstamps and welfare for the families that knew nothing else,but working in the fields for generations.We were treated badly until the UFW came in and made a difference,now the illegals benefit from our sacrifice and suffering.And it seems that's the way it is.Others pave the road to a better life so others can trample the road and kick dust in your face,As a paver,I'm asking the Illegals..please show respect to this great country,Be grateful your here ..love it like you mean it or leave it .No one is irreplaceable I assure you,workers come in truckloads.I can attest to that. "

WHATEVER wrote on Sep 20, 2007 8:32 AM:

" SEE EVERYONE HAD SOMETHING TO SAY ON HOW I WIROTE NOT WHAT I WROTE. I WRITE IN CAPS BECAUSE I CAN. SOME SAY IT'S SHOUTING OK WHATEVER. THAT IS NOT A CONCERN HERE BUT TO SOME PEOPLE IT IS. LET ME SAY OR SHOUT SOMETHING. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS CAN NOT GET WELFARE. WHAT IS SAD TO SEE IS THE AMERICANS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE WELFARE SYSTEMS. I WORK FOR THE COUNTY AND WHAT I SEE IS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT STAY ON WELFARE ARE THE WHITE PEOPLE. YES WE DO HAVE MEXICANS THAT GET ON WELFARE BUT IT IS USUALLY BETWEEN JOBS. I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK INTO THE WELFARE SYSTEMS AND GET STATISTICS BEFORE YOU START TALKING FROM THE SIDE LINES. "

chuck wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:16 PM:

" Hey whatever, do you feel that illegal immigrants steal social security numbers and obtain documents in a non-legal manner to get certain benefits? Do you feel that is a problem? How often do you go into the welfare office? Are you really dense? "

JOHN wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:18 PM:

" WHATEVER I HAVE QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE THE STATISTICS ON THE WELFARE SYSTEM? "

Dear John Whatever wrote on Sep 20, 2007 4:54 PM:

" You too rude and crude to be a social worker,your probably the janitor.Maybe more white people need welfare,because the illegals are taking the jobs less educated people could do.Maybe more white people are on welfare because they aren't bilingual and can't get a job.Maybe more white people are out of job,because employers would rather hire an illegal at a cheaper wage.Maybe more white people are wandering the country looking for jobs,because more factories have closed down and moved across the border.Every needs to eat.And well.they are citizens and can't rob a stores or jack cars because of fingerprints and such.You didn't answer Chuck;s question John.Obviously you have tunnel vision and see only what you want to see.so why go over statistics. "

ALEJANDRO wrote on Sep 20, 2007 8:57 PM:

" See Scott, there ARE bloggers here who respond to 'WHATEVER.' And nary a discouraging word from Alejandro, too! See, I always do play nice as I live in Hanford, a most friendly town. Thank you very much! "

straight4ward wrote on Sep 20, 2007 10:20 PM:

" Hi again. Yes we all say everyone needs to go back home to what? there is nothing there! then they say speak english what for All the Farmers know spanish! to pick fruit you use your hands and if you knew the english all you would do is curse the white people. Most of the time people that are here illegally they just want to make few bucks more then they would get in there country even if it was 5.00 an hr they would be happy but much happier if they were to pay them what everyone else gets. Get this they just want to survive any possible way they can not matter how shitty the job they are happy to be here to survive. No one knows what they are going thru till you have walked in ther shoes so why don't you try going out there to see what conditions many people have to go threw inorder to make there honest earned income. They are not wanted here. they are trying to survive . don't judge just because you know English and they don't . Help those who need help. Thanks. "

TO CHUCK AND JOHN wrote on Sep 21, 2007 9:14 AM:

" GIVE ME TIME TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.... I DO HAVE A JOB. OR AS YOU WOULD SAY IT I STOLE IT FROM A WHITE PERSON.......LOL IT IS FUNNY HOW YOU CAME UP WITH EXCUSES ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE BEING ON WELFARE. BUT WHEN MEXICANS GET WELFARE ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE LAZY. KEEP GIVING EXCUSES. WE STEAL JOBS OK ,MAYBE IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO REALIZE THAT MAYBE MEXICANS ARE MORE QUALIFIED. BUT WHATEVER WE STEAL JOBS. AS FOR SOCIAL SECURITY YEAH I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE STEAL SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND YES MEXICANS DO SO THEY CAN WORK BUT ALSO WHITE PEOPLE DO TOO SO THEY DON'T PAY CHILD SUPPORT. SEE WHAT YOU IGNORANT PEOPLE DONT REALIZE EVERYONE COMMITS CRIMES. ITS NOT A RACE THING. IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT COMMIT CRIMES. BLACKS DO, ASIANS DO, AND YES I KNOW IT MIGHT BE HARD FOR YOU TO BELIEVE BUT WHITE PEOPLE DO TO ..WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING IS ALL THE FINANCIAL REPORTS AND STATISTICS FOR WELFARE FOR KINGS COUNTY. I ALSO INTER ACT WITH FRESNO/TULARE/KERN COUNTIES BUT HEY I STOLE IT FROM A WHITE PERSON LOL "

JOHN wrote on Sep 21, 2007 11:26 AM:

" To whatever, did not say anything about white people not being on welfare, if you are referring to me as someone who makes excuses about white people and welfare. Did not state that mexicans are lazy, me nor did chuck. Did not say you steal jobs either. As far as qualifications are concerned we are talking about illegal immigration and it plus sides and down sides, we are not talking about every mexican in the country. Yes everyone commits crimes, but statistically black and latinos have a higher rate of crimes committed regardless what the crime. and asians have a lower rate in crime. Yes white people do break the law, some higher and some at lower rates, do you have a problem with that? Thank you for answering my question, but what is your job title, just curious? "

Charles wrote on Sep 21, 2007 11:46 AM:

" Just curious, is this blog like every other political blog on the net? If i say I am against illegal immigration would I be considered racist. If i am not for the war in Iraq, would I be considered a terrorist? "

To Charles wrote on Sep 21, 2007 12:56 PM:

" Thats a Dum Question Charlie Brown. "

Charles wrote on Sep 21, 2007 3:20 PM:

" Yea sure it's a dumb question, hence (dumb). It seems though after reading some of these posts that if you don't support illegal immigration you are picking on the mexicans when illegal immigration can be more than just that. "

Whatever again wrote on Sep 22, 2007 10:03 AM:

" Thank You John I wasn't making exuses for anyone Whatever,I was giving "maybe"reasons,to your talking smack about white people.Guess what?I'm a Mex Am.I don't like people talking smack about anyone and one sided views at that.The whole subject of this forum is about Illegals,not anyone hangups.It doesn't bother me when people speak different languages.I love to celebrate the Cinco de Mayo and St Patricks Day and the Chinese NewYear ect.But I do have a problem when I can't get my kids into summer school,because it's only for bilingual students.I have a problem that my kids aren't getting the education they need ,because bilingual children take priority.I do have a problem with a country that won't take care of it's own and a religion that encourages people to overpopulate while they get rich.And they both leave us to finance the burden.I do have a problem with liars and cheaters,who steal others IDs to take shortscuts for what the rest of us have worked hard to earn.I have a problem with people who hit and try to run like hat 19 yrs situation,and chances are if your an illegal..you will get away with it.Why?Because they have no legal IDs or fake ones. "

Whatever again 2 wrote on Sep 22, 2007 10:24 AM:

" We are a people raised on the law,honor and respect.It's up to us to keep those traditions intact.We're not the wild west anymore.We have a system and if we are not wrong to expect people respect that system.honor our laws and respect those laws.I wonder,does anyone know if any other country has schools that are bilingual for English speaking students?Or can an American get by without having some kind of ID or passport in a foreign country?What would happen to us if we were caught without an ID in a foreign country? "

to whatever 2 again wrote on Sep 22, 2007 6:23 PM:

" seems funny that whenever you want, you can turn on and off things that are ok and then when they are not. you want to secure the borders. ok. I'm all for the wall, we can be like the Chinese and build the wall. but there's very little support for that. bush won't be able to do that, he's about as done as can be. then I'm for a national ID card. are you??? that's about as strong as a measure that is needed, but again, there's very little support for that. we had a military ID when i was in the service that replaced our drivers license. i'm ready, are you??? if you were to travel the world, you'd see that in Europe students are multi lingual, English and Spanish included. my passport??? my military ID and back to a national ID. Americans have had it easy for so long and now that they have to make tough choices they say, Kick them all out!!! "

Z.W. wrote on Sep 23, 2007 1:44 AM:

" To whoever responded to my previous post - I think you may have misunderstood, when I said I was the one doing all those jobs I wasn't refering to 20 or 30 years ago. You mentioned "when you and I were growing up", I'm only 27 years old and I did these jobs from the age of 13 on up, that isn't that long ago. So for you to say "you know and i know that WE will never go out to the fields .... " is a bunch of bull. In addition when I moved to California, after I got out of the military, nobody wanted to hire me, including and especially the farmers. I looked for any and every job I could, to pay my bills, but "overqaulified" and "underqualified" were terms I heard over and over. Mind you I'm a H.S.grad, no criminal record, prior military, and perfectly healthy. You can try to explain that one to me but I'm sure it's because in there head, hiring me is going to jeopardize the way they run things, whether I was perfectly capable of working or not. So like I said, "hold the employers responsible". "

to whatever 2 again reply wrote on Sep 23, 2007 10:54 AM:

" Huh?What are you talking about?Of course I'm ready for a national ID or any ID if it will help keep some kind of track of who's who and who's here..I'm all legal and have no reason not to register for anything.But,I don't want to travel the world,I have everything I want right here in the USA.So since you have been out of the country and your had a military ID,that answers my question..no matter where we go a legal ID is required.So we aren't wrong to require one here.Seems that people are getting off the subject of what"Illegal" really is.It's not a nationallity,or peoples traditions or customs.It's a matter of doing whatever it takes to be in this country or any country legally.Once people do that,somehow the assimalation comes naturally.Build a wall?Please,people are sneaking in on ships,and some even fly in.I overheard 2 women talking in ladys room once.One said she came in as a mule the first time crossing the border with others, the second time in a car,and this time in a plane.Where theres a will theres a way. "

Another brick in the wall! wrote on Sep 23, 2007 10:55 AM:

" Now we see the laborers in other industries mostly dominated by Hispanics. It has nearly closed the door to any other race to apply for this type of work. Do we need to start affirmative action again and implement race quotas through the national laws, already on the books and enforce equal ratios of all peoples in all areas of manual labor jobs? Will this be debated about in the future? Vanished to posterity is the AMERICAN worker, when union busting went into full swing from the mid 1970’s through the early ‘90’s it effect was at the expense of the American worker. Outsourcing pushed and supported by Wal-Mart’s original founder Sam Walton celebrated the corporation’s 90+% of its inventory coming from outside of the United States, all lost product industries/businesses put the American out of work. What Happened to all the products we once produced ourselves. Americans let’s get back to work, fight for right to work here in your own country. It is not too late to buildup security (border walls), so let history repeat itself (Berlin wall) to protect your/my/our country till illegal immigration is under control. "

to another brick in the wall wrote on Sep 24, 2007 2:59 PM:

" in a relativly short time the latino population will become the majority population not only in cali but in other states and what will happen then? i'm just going to sit back and wait. "

To Sit Back and Wait (FOR WHAT?) wrote on Sep 24, 2007 6:40 PM:

" What are you going to sit back and wait for? Didn't you know the Mexican population of L.A. is already the largest outside of Mexico? Did you know that out of 720,479 students polled in 1998 by the Census Bureau that Spanish was the primary native-tongue of 448,560? Did you know that in 2000 in Kings County alone 56,461 were Hispanics of 129,461 people counted in the Census that year. So what do you know that we don't know already! Your short non-to-the-point comment is vague, non-applicable in parts of the U.S. and just about wasted words of fear for an end to the free-entry that will be embarked upon with stricter immigration measures and laws for those who are aiding and abetting border crossing illegals. Not to mention the deportation of the illegal’s ¿En este tipo de foro, usted entiende esa estadística con la información clara dada para su mente pequeña? For those of you who don't understand Spanish basically I said. (Do you understand those clear statistics for your limited slacker approach to this forum?)AS to your question of what will happen then? I think it is evident,IT’S already happened! QLG "

su mente pequeña wrote on Sep 25, 2007 12:46 PM:

" 'Were Here, not there, get used to it!' Americans, we have been warned! In Spanish, no less (no mas, no menos!). "

To: ¡No mas, No menos! wrote on Sep 25, 2007 5:05 PM:

" Tolerance is just a colorful word for stop all "the hating" people! The problem is, it is lovely in theory but gets complicated by the quality of its sums. Diversity is the only way to create equality. Yet as much as human try to incorporate and integrate ideas of tolerance, it gets diluted and polluted when a majority of disrespectful opportunist invade, occupy and disregard all laws. There is a separation of laws in this country for a reason and then there is the gray acting like a fog. It reduces a country's ability to defend its own national citizen/peoples right to complain. Well boys and girls, I have learned over the years to deny the MAJORITY Citizen is a destructive revolution. WHY be forced to foster a belief that THIS society is NOT plagued with a 20+million illegal population? WE know, NO system is going to be the right system of solution for any of the parties involved. We are asked to limit our discord with an ILLEGALgroup of people who are not willing to assimilate or follow laws of government. NO!SPECIAL-INTEREST shouldn’t be a THEforce to allow law-breakers into theU.S. "

mike wrote on Sep 26, 2007 10:44 AM:

" I guess this is a popular subject. Well, my take is I'm tired of hearing how Americans won't pick their own crops or do their own dirty work. If we're so lazy and ungrateful why are people flocking from all over the world to live here? All I can say is with all the money saved on welfare and other programs that are being abused by people who don't pay back into them, this state and country could easily counteract the problem of not having as many workers to do dirty jobs. Now, back to the real issue. Illegal means Illegal. Americans have the fear of losing something when they do something illegal. All laws should effect everyone the same. "

S. Roller wrote on Sep 26, 2007 1:38 PM:

" Why are there so many Mexican restaurants in Hanford? "

So many Mexican food establishments? wrote on Sep 26, 2007 7:05 PM:

" It's cheap to purchase the products to serve in a Mexican food establishment. It is also cheap to hire an illegal family member to work. It's doesn't take a degree and there is no requirement to have worked in Chef Ramsey's kitchen to produce the dishes or have taken a Department of Health course on food safety procedures. By the way half the taqueria's and hole in the wall places (that's funny) really don't serve that palatable a cuisine anyway. You know they serve more to the peasant style meals using cheap head meats and chopped up organ meats in place of top quality cuts. What's the cost of 50lb. bag of pinto beans? $19.00 dollars. How about a 50lb. bag of rice? $27.00 dollars. And of course, the always popular corn and flour tortillas by the 100 dozen and an illegal’s to cross the border, priceless! "

to QLG wrote on Sep 26, 2007 10:27 PM:

" en este tipo de foro means "in this type of forum" and pequena mente means "small mind"both of which you did not translate correctly. in YOUR translation, you also failed to translate the word "information." Mr. Golden, my English teacher at the east campus once told me "if you are going to put something out for people to hear or read, MAKE SURE ITS CORRECT!!! either way, I've proved my point. Spanish is creeping into mainstream society (thanks to you QLG), Mexican restaurants are all over the place (not just Hanford) thanks to Americans like S. Roller who I'm sure takes his/her family there all the time. otherwise, they would close due to lack of business. this started out as a commentary on ICE and now its Mexicans this and illegals that. its I can pick this and I'll pay more for that. and all this coming from a state that will soon have a larger Latino population than Anglo (dare i say it, Latinos are considered to be in the WHITE RACE). so, we are brother and sisters to YOU. just sit back and wait, brother/sister QLG!!! "

Silence is Golden... wrote on Sep 27, 2007 2:18 PM:

" ICE...ICE... baby. Just doing their job, finally. Coming soon to a neighborhood near you! "

IMMIGRANTS wrote on Sep 27, 2007 2:21 PM:

" All I can say is: ANYONE BEEN IN WALMART OR MERVYNS LATELY??? WHAT A MESS!!! "

To: Creeping into mainsteam society? wrote on Sep 27, 2007 7:49 PM:

" ICE will be working like a herbicide on the Creeping Charlies and Chewy's. The ground ivy of illegal immigration of creeping Jenny's and Juana's – it doesn't matter what name you call it, ICE will inhibit the weed-like illegal occupation by all nations who's people enter U.S. soil illegally. Right now it is difficult to control once they enter on U.S. soil. The absolute basis for the existence of our government is for the protection of our Citizens-their person, their property and their rights. Shamnesty is a weed that spreads by seeds of long borders with Mexico. U.S. Citizen will remain legally vigilant and on the offensive. When an enemy gets us on the defensive, we have lost and NO we won't sit back and wait. Sorry you darling student of Mr. Golden's the flow of open borders in and out of Mexico has to stop. QLG "

to qlg wrote on Sep 27, 2007 10:22 PM:

" its "Chuy" and not Chewy. Where are you getting your Spanish??? Question for you today. who's going to stop or better yet, who's going to close the borders?? you ??? all of you in Hanford, get closer to the front lines and tell me WHO IS winning the battle there......ICE is winning there about as much as we are winning in Iraq. bet you that before Georgie leaves office we all become documented and your new neighbor...... where have all the gringo's go??? "

to silence is golden wrote on Sep 27, 2007 10:33 PM:

" and now the end is near..... or better yet there's a tear in my beer...........we'll be in your neighborhood soon Buddy. "

to QLG wrote on Sep 27, 2007 10:35 PM:

" what in tar nations are you trying to say??? i think you have been taking in that loco weed from down south. "

Robert wrote on Sep 28, 2007 2:48 AM:

" The Feds can start at the Palace in Lemoore. That's if they can get through the drug addicts and alcoholics. It saddens me to see illegals gambling hundreds and or thousands of dollars when Americans are lined up at EDD. True, illegals spend money here and this does help the economy. Although the money they cost us in all other areas isn't a plus. So, in closing I'd say we were surviving without their presence in such great numbers and will be ok if their deported. "

It' Buddy...the gringo wrote on Sep 28, 2007 1:46 PM:

" There are two camps here. U.S. Americans whose views are not being supported by their own government to control immigration and then I see what we have here in this blog is really a group of Latinos with outlaw ideas and NO plans to support ICE. The Mexican wants to protect their illegal occupant family members. Their allegiance is to a culture and country that does nothing for them but provide them an identity of Mexican. What has Mexico done for you lately...push your people out to suckel Lady Liberty without being properly introduced? Wham! Bam! No thank you's to the ma'am. There is a mass population of people who have no obedience or respect to this U.S. nation. And you wonder why U.S. citizens are fed-up with arrogant illegals and their citizen families who hang on to loyalties to their foreign state without benefit. ICE's presence is putting fear in many that is for sure. "

HI ROBERT wrote on Sep 29, 2007 5:12 PM:

" Its great they are at the Palace, because the Palace pays taxes that help our schools. At least we a getting taxes some how. Look at the up side. Heck, I think the Palace should have spanish bingo. "

mexican wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:52 PM:

" What are they doing anyways, they need us, ha ha "

mexican wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:59 PM:

" What are they doing anyways, they need us, ha ha maybe it affects the economy, but looking at it from our point of view, we just come to live better. It doesnt mean that we are not proud of who we are or where we come from, is just simply that USA is a country of opportunities and hope. So, WE are not here to take jobs away from GRINGOS that dont want to work, we just know how to work and we do it right. ORALE!!!!!!!! "

THIS IS A JOKE wrote on Oct 3, 2007 11:43 PM:

" Amazing how reading these responces. it has to be a gringo a white person that's saying all this. You call us rasist but isn't it a 2 way street your calling us rasist at same time your calling us gringo's saying we can't work in fields, I have tried to work in fields I have tried to get a dairy job. Was denied cause i didn't speak spanish. I can't get a jog i would enjoy in my country cause of not being able to speak another language not american "

ICE must begin the process of deportation of local illegals wrote on Oct 5, 2007 3:36 PM:

" Why try to stop the inevitable? If you have illegally compromised your own life by entering into this country or have aided your illegal family member, the inevitable is you will be prosecuted for the crimes you have committed. You will be found out and all you’re covering up is not going to hide the paper trail you have left behind.Every piece of mail, post-office money order,P.O. box, school document you submitted to local area schools to apply for free lunches, Medicare, and dental services and transversing of your name from mother to father surnames has been documented...not only are the documents on file but your finger prints are all over everything you have submitted over the years. So saying you didn't sign something when you finger prints are all over the document is going to be hard for you to deny you were nowhere near those papers you falsified as to who you were or were not.Technology is our saving grace to the mystery of who the illegal aliens say they are or are not, your identity will be found out.ICE will deport many!Let the raids begin. "

Alan G. wrote on Oct 8, 2007 1:42 PM:

" Does anyone know the King's County Jail's policy in regards to releasing undocumented convicts from their facility? Is ICE called or are they simply released? In LA County, there are now full-time officers who are entirely dedicated to verifying the residency status of all inmates and the number is approximately 25%. "

Where can ICE go to get a good round-up of illegals and why. wrote on Oct 8, 2007 7:37 PM:

" Did you know that 41% of all checks cashed by illegals are cashed for a nominal fee at Arab and East-Indian owned liqour stores across the United States? How about only 25 percent of the illegal alien women between the ages of 25 to 44 are in the labor force,compared to 76 percent of native American women.The rest are dumping anchor babies and living the good life on the public dole.There perks: 43% of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens. Their husband are part of the 41% of all unemployment checks in the United States issued to illegal aliens. 58% of all welfare payments in the United States are issued to illegal aliens. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties in the United States are illegal aliens. The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican illegal alien on the average American is $55,000 over a five-year span. You personally are shelling out $11,000 every year to every lawbreaker who crosses over the Rio Grande. "

to this is a joke wrote on Oct 11, 2007 10:26 PM:

" don't blame your inability at not getting a "jog" on not being able to speak Spanish. i think you couldn't fill out the application properly in English. misplaced bias is more like it. "




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